What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?
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@MattSpeller said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
@DustinB3403 said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
@Tim_G Why is any of it physical?
If his place is anything like mine there's just stuff you haven't gotten to yet
This pretty much says it all.
There was a lot of custom stuff before I started. So it's not as simple running P2V, bang bang done. At the same time consolidating. There was definite physical server sprawl, complicated configurations. Much of it was old outdated Linux and Windows physical servers such as 2000, 2003, wayyyy (old) unsupported CentOS, FreeBSD, and Ubuntu. A bunch of other stuff that couldn't be virtualized. So not only couldn't I do P2V, it had to be rebuilt from scratch on a different OS... Software updated, the list goes on.
How it was when I started, all the VMs were physical, plus more because of too much role separation. Plus a lot of IPODs with old SANs and such (no clustering).
It started out as a garage shop, grew to a multinational company in like 30 countries, and never left the garage shop mentality... so you can use your imagination to get a better picture of how thing were, and how far it has come with the numbers I provided. Lots of stuff coming up in the meantime too... huge projects.
Still a lot of work to do, and no time to do it.
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77% Windows here. Lots of stuff could be ported over to *nix but there has been no drive to do it.
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@coliver said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
77% Windows here. Lots of stuff could be ported over to *nix but there has been no drive to do it.
The only currently supported thing that we have that uses Windows server is our accounting package, which runs on postgreSQL. What I'm not sure of is if there is an actual server side component to this, or if the DB is all that is really running on the server. It's Business Works (formerly Business Works Gold).
Of course out old, no supported, yet still required EHR system runs on IIS and won't be ported to another platform, so it's stuck.
The rest though could all be replaced with nix derivatives.
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Right now 100% that are running. I shut down a couple of Linux server that were no longer needed.
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15% Windows.
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92% Windows: 11 of 12 server instances.
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I spent about 3 years doing installs for Unitrends, so I saw the internal workings of a few hundred SMB businesses over that time. We're not talking Fortune 100 companies, but many businesses with multiple locations, schools, municipalities, and some in Canada and the UK. Of those varied businesses/entities, I would be making a large stretch to estimate that even 10% of all of the servers I saw were non-MS. It was probably between 5 and 10%, closer to 5%. Maybe 1% AIX. I saw a small handful of Groupwise, and a slight bit more Novell Netware. Ubuntu was more popular than RHEL. Mac was virtually non-existent. In fact, I think one company wanted to protect about 25 workstations (not the norm in any way, but we're talking about Mac-user types...), and I don't think I touched more than 3 Macs outside of that in 3 years.
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@art_of_shred said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
I spent about 3 years doing installs for Unitrends, so I saw the internal workings of a few hundred SMB businesses over that time. We're not talking Fortune 100 companies, but many businesses with multiple locations, schools, municipalities, and some in Canada and the UK. Of those varied businesses/entities, I would be making a large stretch to estimate that even 10% of all of the servers I saw were non-MS. It was probably between 5 and 10%, closer to 5%. Maybe 1% AIX. I saw a small handful of Groupwise, and a slight bit more Novell Netware. Ubuntu was more popular than RHEL. Mac was virtually non-existent. In fact, I think one company wanted to protect about 25 workstations (not the norm in any way, but we're talking about Mac-user types...), and I don't think I touched more than 3 Macs outside of that in 3 years.
Although that also limits you to specifically seeing Unitrends customers - a product that specifically targets the Windows space. So it's not an even cross section.
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@scottalanmiller said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
@art_of_shred said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
I spent about 3 years doing installs for Unitrends, so I saw the internal workings of a few hundred SMB businesses over that time. We're not talking Fortune 100 companies, but many businesses with multiple locations, schools, municipalities, and some in Canada and the UK. Of those varied businesses/entities, I would be making a large stretch to estimate that even 10% of all of the servers I saw were non-MS. It was probably between 5 and 10%, closer to 5%. Maybe 1% AIX. I saw a small handful of Groupwise, and a slight bit more Novell Netware. Ubuntu was more popular than RHEL. Mac was virtually non-existent. In fact, I think one company wanted to protect about 25 workstations (not the norm in any way, but we're talking about Mac-user types...), and I don't think I touched more than 3 Macs outside of that in 3 years.
Although that also limits you to specifically seeing Unitrends customers - a product that specifically targets the Windows space. So it's not an even cross section.
Cross-section is irrelevant. The question was what is the percent windows for wherever you are wherever you've seen. You can push your agenda and think that oh my gosh all these other places are not windows but you're not there you're making assumptions based on your own biases
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@JaredBusch said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
@scottalanmiller said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
@art_of_shred said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
I spent about 3 years doing installs for Unitrends, so I saw the internal workings of a few hundred SMB businesses over that time. We're not talking Fortune 100 companies, but many businesses with multiple locations, schools, municipalities, and some in Canada and the UK. Of those varied businesses/entities, I would be making a large stretch to estimate that even 10% of all of the servers I saw were non-MS. It was probably between 5 and 10%, closer to 5%. Maybe 1% AIX. I saw a small handful of Groupwise, and a slight bit more Novell Netware. Ubuntu was more popular than RHEL. Mac was virtually non-existent. In fact, I think one company wanted to protect about 25 workstations (not the norm in any way, but we're talking about Mac-user types...), and I don't think I touched more than 3 Macs outside of that in 3 years.
Although that also limits you to specifically seeing Unitrends customers - a product that specifically targets the Windows space. So it's not an even cross section.
Cross-section is irrelevant. The question was what is the percent windows for wherever you are wherever you've seen. You can push your agenda and think that oh my gosh all these other places are not windows but you're not there you're making assumptions based on your own biases
As can you. Understanding that it's a reference specifically created by supporting specifically Windows is absolutely necessary so get off the high horse. And he left out that he was installing Linux at all if those costumers, too.
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Pointing out important facts isn't bias. But your post is clearly emotional response to basic info.
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@JaredBusch said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
@scottalanmiller said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
@art_of_shred said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
I spent about 3 years doing installs for Unitrends, so I saw the internal workings of a few hundred SMB businesses over that time. We're not talking Fortune 100 companies, but many businesses with multiple locations, schools, municipalities, and some in Canada and the UK. Of those varied businesses/entities, I would be making a large stretch to estimate that even 10% of all of the servers I saw were non-MS. It was probably between 5 and 10%, closer to 5%. Maybe 1% AIX. I saw a small handful of Groupwise, and a slight bit more Novell Netware. Ubuntu was more popular than RHEL. Mac was virtually non-existent. In fact, I think one company wanted to protect about 25 workstations (not the norm in any way, but we're talking about Mac-user types...), and I don't think I touched more than 3 Macs outside of that in 3 years.
Although that also limits you to specifically seeing Unitrends customers - a product that specifically targets the Windows space. So it's not an even cross section.
Cross-section is irrelevant. The question was what is the percent windows for wherever you are wherever you've seen. You can push your agenda and think that oh my gosh all these other places are not windows but you're not there you're making assumptions based on your own biases
As I specifically noted that it was related to Unitrends, and was primarily SMB, that shows that I defined the space I was describing and didn't just say "companies everywhere".
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@art_of_shred said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
@JaredBusch said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
@scottalanmiller said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
@art_of_shred said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
I spent about 3 years doing installs for Unitrends, so I saw the internal workings of a few hundred SMB businesses over that time. We're not talking Fortune 100 companies, but many businesses with multiple locations, schools, municipalities, and some in Canada and the UK. Of those varied businesses/entities, I would be making a large stretch to estimate that even 10% of all of the servers I saw were non-MS. It was probably between 5 and 10%, closer to 5%. Maybe 1% AIX. I saw a small handful of Groupwise, and a slight bit more Novell Netware. Ubuntu was more popular than RHEL. Mac was virtually non-existent. In fact, I think one company wanted to protect about 25 workstations (not the norm in any way, but we're talking about Mac-user types...), and I don't think I touched more than 3 Macs outside of that in 3 years.
Although that also limits you to specifically seeing Unitrends customers - a product that specifically targets the Windows space. So it's not an even cross section.
Cross-section is irrelevant. The question was what is the percent windows for wherever you are wherever you've seen. You can push your agenda and think that oh my gosh all these other places are not windows but you're not there you're making assumptions based on your own biases
As I specifically noted that it was related to Unitrends, and was primarily SMB, that shows that I defined the space I was describing and didn't just say "companies everywhere".
But people who are not Unitrends installers might not understand that the product specifically targets a windows environments and that it is a Linux install. Your wording didn't tell anything important unless you are a Unitrends expert.
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I don't consider appliances part of the list this question is about. It's not like you have a choice what OS is on your appliance in most cases.
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@Dashrender said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
I don't consider appliances part of the list this question is about. It's not like you have a choice what OS is on your appliance in most cases.
Valid. But it's also very skewing. Nearly all appliances are Linux. And SMBs use a lot of appliances. And does FreeNAS count or not?
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Appliances are not servers. They are appliances specifically so you don't have to f***[moderated] with the 'server'.
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What about an appliance makes it not count? Is it the GUI?
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@JaredBusch said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
Appliances are not servers. They are appliances specifically so you don't have to f***[moderated] with the 'server'.
What makes them not servers?
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So is FreeNAS a server or an appliance? What's the reasoning either way?
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@scottalanmiller said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
@Dashrender said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
I don't consider appliances part of the list this question is about. It's not like you have a choice what OS is on your appliance in most cases.
Valid. But it's also very skewing. Nearly all appliances are Linux. And SMBs use a lot of appliances. And does FreeNAS count or not?
No, it doesn't count, just like the hypervisor doesn't count.
Now, if they are doing more than just storage on the FreeNAS box, then it does, but if storage only.. nope. They are using FreeNAS because it's an appliance - you know this. Because if they knew how to manage nix natively, they would never bother with FreeNAS in the first place, as you have pointed out countless times in the past.
