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    Best Software to backup to NAS automatically with versions/purging support?

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    • Emad RE
      Emad R @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender

      No server really, we want to rely to agent/software that will backup to NAS directly and this software should be installed on other Wndows clients as well.

      I am looking for stuff like Genie9 GenieTimeline.

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      • Emad RE
        Emad R @PenguinWrangler
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        @PenguinWrangler

        Thanks will check it out.

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        • PenguinWranglerP
          PenguinWrangler
          last edited by

          I misread what you wanted to do. I thought you wanted to backup the NAS. If you want to backup Windows machine to a NAS I would use Veeam Endpoint backup. It is free and easy to use.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
            last edited by DustinB3403

            Yeah VeeamEndpoint is the go to solution for these kinds of use cases.

            Alternatives to it would be UrBackup(and a plethora of others), it does require a bit more to setup than Veeam does though.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              What hypervisor are you on?

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in Best Software to backup to NAS automatically with versions/purging support?:

                What hypervisor are you on?

                He's not, he's talking about backing up desktops.

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                • NerdyDadN
                  NerdyDad
                  last edited by

                  I agree with @DustinB3403 & @PenguinWrangler Veeam Endpoint backup is the way to go.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said in Best Software to backup to NAS automatically with versions/purging support?:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Best Software to backup to NAS automatically with versions/purging support?:

                    What hypervisor are you on?

                    He's not, he's talking about backing up desktops.

                    Oh. Then the best backup is no backup.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Best Software to backup to NAS automatically with versions/purging support?:

                      @Dashrender said in Best Software to backup to NAS automatically with versions/purging support?:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Best Software to backup to NAS automatically with versions/purging support?:

                      What hypervisor are you on?

                      He's not, he's talking about backing up desktops.

                      Oh. Then the best backup is no backup.

                      Some times this is not realistic. It's why endpoint solutions exist.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Best Software to backup to NAS automatically with versions/purging support?:

                        @Dashrender said in Best Software to backup to NAS automatically with versions/purging support?:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Best Software to backup to NAS automatically with versions/purging support?:

                        What hypervisor are you on?

                        He's not, he's talking about backing up desktops.

                        Oh. Then the best backup is no backup.

                        This is not an answer unless you want to provide the details on how no backup is best when users are using a computer that has local storage.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          https://mangolassi.it/topic/6628/backup-system-for-5-pc-smb/

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in Best Software to backup to NAS automatically with versions/purging support?:

                            https://mangolassi.it/topic/6628/backup-system-for-5-pc-smb/

                            Not a very good post to link someone too - it's 329 posts worth - not many are going to read it...

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said in Best Software to backup to NAS automatically with versions/purging support?:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Best Software to backup to NAS automatically with versions/purging support?:

                              https://mangolassi.it/topic/6628/backup-system-for-5-pc-smb/

                              Not a very good post to link someone too - it's 329 posts worth - not many are going to read it...

                              Shouldn't have to. Basic best practice has always been to not store data on a desktop and not to back it up. Simply "don't store data there" is all that there needs to be in an answer.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                Meanwhile, in reality....

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @JaredBusch said in Best Software to backup to NAS automatically with versions/purging support?:

                                  Meanwhile, in reality....

                                  Exactly - Scott - it's fine to say don't store it there, but you didn't offer any solution as to where they should store it? and how they should back that up.

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                                  • NerdyDadN
                                    NerdyDad
                                    last edited by

                                    Question we are missing is "Are these desktops or laptops?"

                                    If desktops, why not redirect their "Documents" folder to the NAS?

                                    If laptops, then I believe that an endpoint backup solution is going to be needed, unless you want to redirect them to OneDrive or something like that.

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                                    • PenguinWranglerP
                                      PenguinWrangler @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller What you say is correct. However, you have to move people in that direction. As of now that business has a need to backup the software on the local machines. When I have clients like this I show them that this is not the best practice and often will say we need to have a roadmap to get them to best practices because that leads to them being able to recover from a disaster. 40% of businesses don't recover after a disaster. I take care of their current need, that data that is stored locally but I work to move them in the right direction. If they don't want to move in the right direction I usually turn the job down.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said in Best Software to backup to NAS automatically with versions/purging support?:

                                        @JaredBusch said in Best Software to backup to NAS automatically with versions/purging support?:

                                        Meanwhile, in reality....

                                        Exactly - Scott - it's fine to say don't store it there, but you didn't offer any solution as to where they should store it? and how they should back that up.

                                        Seriously? We are all IT pros here. On a server, obviously.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Best Software to backup to NAS automatically with versions/purging support?:

                                          @Dashrender said in Best Software to backup to NAS automatically with versions/purging support?:

                                          @JaredBusch said in Best Software to backup to NAS automatically with versions/purging support?:

                                          Meanwhile, in reality....

                                          Exactly - Scott - it's fine to say don't store it there, but you didn't offer any solution as to where they should store it? and how they should back that up.

                                          Seriously? We are all IT pros here. On a server, obviously.

                                          The question isn't "what should I use to store my user generated data?"

                                          It's I have user generated data stored on their local systems, I want to ensure that we don't lose this data, how can I do that?

                                          And while you can use endpoint backup software to do this, it's more cumbersome to manage, as every endpoint needs to be configured individually, and managed.

                                          Veeam Endpoint Backup is the standard solution for this. (I believe it has a central management solution).

                                          The other alternative would be UrBackup (as I mentioned above) which is centrally managed from a web console.

                                          Again, these are the best of the worst approaches, as the goal to should be to not leave data on enduser systems. Of course this is reality and it will occur.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Best Software to backup to NAS automatically with versions/purging support?:

                                            Veeam Endpoint Backup is the standard solution for this. (I believe it has a central management solution).

                                            In beta.

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