Nextcloud AMA!!
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hashtag IOT?
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I am not actually using NextCloud anywhere yet because of existing ownCloud installations that have yet to be migrated.
I noticed that with version 11 there are some issues with compatibility in the Android app and that it is now required to migrate to the NextCloud app.
Are there any compatibility issues yet with the desktop sync clients? Changing all users once I migrate the server is a non-trivial task.
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Are there any plans to actually integrate an email server or just to remain as a client? Not saying that that is my vote either way, just interested in the email roadmap.
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@JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
I noticed that with version 11 there are some issues with compatibility in the Android app and that it is now required to migrate to the NextCloud app.
Are there any compatibility issues yet with the desktop sync clients? Changing all users once I migrate the server is a non-trivial task.The ownCloud 2.2 and 2.3 desktop client should be completely compatible with Nextcloud. So you can easily migrate this over time.
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@Dashrender said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
hashtag IOT?
Ach, it isn't a hurdle but there's a lot of interesting stuff in that area which provides similar challenges as the ones we try to solve (who is in control etcetera). The Nextcloud Box is positioned, especially by Canonical, to address some of that see https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/02/22/an-ubuntu-snap-based-solution-for-enterprises-to-control-their-data/
I'm sure Frank is itching to move from this boring old cloud stuff and create a new project to tackle an entirely new space and challenge 8-)
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@scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
Are there any plans to actually integrate an email server or just to remain as a client? Not saying that that is my vote either way, just interested in the email roadmap.
So one of the goals of Nextcloud is to be super easy to install. Because of that it is a pure PHP application that is super easy to install. So we can't include a full IMAP/SMTP server. And to be honest there is also no point in reinventing the wheel. A lot of great open source mailservers exists. Just install one of them and Nextcloud can use it.
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I deploy software on windows via chocolatey.org whenever possible.
The NextCloud client is listed there, but I see no official NextCloud names in the details.
https://chocolatey.org/packages/nextcloud-clientHas anyone from there reached out to you about this to ensure things like download links always work, etc?
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I'd love to see an AetherStore / NextCloud integration. Gotta get AS onto Linux first, but once there is that, having the two work together could be really cool for the SMB market.
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@JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
Has anyone from there reached out to you about this to ensure things like download links always work, etc?
Never heard of chocolatey.org myself but our download links should actually stay valid.
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@Frank-Karlitschek said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
Are there any plans to actually integrate an email server or just to remain as a client? Not saying that that is my vote either way, just interested in the email roadmap.
So one of the goals of Nextcloud is to be super easy to install. Because of that it is a pure PHP application that is super easy to install. So we can't include a full IMAP/SMTP server. And to be honest there is also no point in reinventing the wheel. A lot of great open source mailservers exists. Just install one of them and Nextcloud can use it.
A single appliance solution would be really great. I see the long term goal of this product competing directly against O365.
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@Dashrender said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@Frank-Karlitschek said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
Are there any plans to actually integrate an email server or just to remain as a client? Not saying that that is my vote either way, just interested in the email roadmap.
So one of the goals of Nextcloud is to be super easy to install. Because of that it is a pure PHP application that is super easy to install. So we can't include a full IMAP/SMTP server. And to be honest there is also no point in reinventing the wheel. A lot of great open source mailservers exists. Just install one of them and Nextcloud can use it.
A single appliance solution would be really great. I see the long term goal of this product competing directly against O365.
Email absolutely should not ever be integrated.
Thread on their forums.
https://help.nextcloud.com/t/nextcloud-mail-server/157 -
@LukasReschke said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
Has anyone from there reached out to you about this to ensure things like download links always work, etc?
Never heard of chocolatey.org myself but our download links should actually stay valid.
It's the main software repository system for Windows (think RPM or DEB repo, for Windows.) It used to be a small, private open source project. But Microsoft has started working with them and it is semi-official at this point. It's built on NuGet, which is an official Windows tool from MS themselves.
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@JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@Dashrender said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@Frank-Karlitschek said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
Are there any plans to actually integrate an email server or just to remain as a client? Not saying that that is my vote either way, just interested in the email roadmap.
So one of the goals of Nextcloud is to be super easy to install. Because of that it is a pure PHP application that is super easy to install. So we can't include a full IMAP/SMTP server. And to be honest there is also no point in reinventing the wheel. A lot of great open source mailservers exists. Just install one of them and Nextcloud can use it.
A single appliance solution would be really great. I see the long term goal of this product competing directly against O365.
Email absolutely should not ever be integrated.
Thread on their forums.
https://help.nextcloud.com/t/nextcloud-mail-server/157Integrated directly, perhaps not, but as a ride-along-side, it would be great.
If I'm using gmail for my email and want to store my files in NextCloud - what's the current solution for that? download the file local, save to NC, open in NC and use LO to edit/view the file? what a huge PITA.
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@scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@LukasReschke said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
Has anyone from there reached out to you about this to ensure things like download links always work, etc?
Never heard of chocolatey.org myself but our download links should actually stay valid.
It's the main software repository system for Windows (think RPM or DEB repo, for Windows.) It used to be a small, private open source project. But Microsoft has started working with them and it is semi-official at this point. It's built on NuGet, which is an official Windows tool from MS themselves.
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@Dashrender said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@Dashrender said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@Frank-Karlitschek said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
Are there any plans to actually integrate an email server or just to remain as a client? Not saying that that is my vote either way, just interested in the email roadmap.
So one of the goals of Nextcloud is to be super easy to install. Because of that it is a pure PHP application that is super easy to install. So we can't include a full IMAP/SMTP server. And to be honest there is also no point in reinventing the wheel. A lot of great open source mailservers exists. Just install one of them and Nextcloud can use it.
A single appliance solution would be really great. I see the long term goal of this product competing directly against O365.
Email absolutely should not ever be integrated.
Thread on their forums.
https://help.nextcloud.com/t/nextcloud-mail-server/157Integrated directly, perhaps not, but as a ride-along-side, it would be great.
If I'm using gmail for my email and want to store my files in NextCloud - what's the current solution for that? download the file local, save to NC, open in NC and use LO to edit/view the file? what a huge PITA.
Use the email client on NC, the integration is built in.
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@scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@Dashrender said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@Dashrender said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@Frank-Karlitschek said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
Are there any plans to actually integrate an email server or just to remain as a client? Not saying that that is my vote either way, just interested in the email roadmap.
So one of the goals of Nextcloud is to be super easy to install. Because of that it is a pure PHP application that is super easy to install. So we can't include a full IMAP/SMTP server. And to be honest there is also no point in reinventing the wheel. A lot of great open source mailservers exists. Just install one of them and Nextcloud can use it.
A single appliance solution would be really great. I see the long term goal of this product competing directly against O365.
Email absolutely should not ever be integrated.
Thread on their forums.
https://help.nextcloud.com/t/nextcloud-mail-server/157Integrated directly, perhaps not, but as a ride-along-side, it would be great.
If I'm using gmail for my email and want to store my files in NextCloud - what's the current solution for that? download the file local, save to NC, open in NC and use LO to edit/view the file? what a huge PITA.
Use the email client on NC, the integration is built in.
Awww - I didn't realize how the email portion of NC worked. OK sounds like they are very close to competing with O365 already... now we just need local application direct integration (as mentioned above) and we'll be set.
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as asked by @JK74
I was wondering when some integration for MAC os like the client will be become available? It seems the current client is coded against an old openSSL library? Same for firefox or safari browser integration on a MAC? It seems like some file preview functions are all giving issues that is not helping the adoption to MAC users? Those same functions like preview etc. seem to work fine on a windows client. but please keep up the good work in coding! the product is awesome in its functionality. -
@Minion-Queen said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
I was wondering when some integration for MAC os like the client will be become available? It seems the current client is coded against an old openSSL library? Same for firefox or safari browser integration on a MAC? It seems like some file preview functions are all giving issues that is not helping the adoption to MAC users? Those same functions like preview etc. seem to work fine on a windows client. but please keep up the good work in coding! the product is awesome in its functionality.
More work is happening in this area, the upcoming 2.3 client will have a newer openSSL for example. And more is coming
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@Dashrender said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@Dashrender said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@Dashrender said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@Frank-Karlitschek said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
Are there any plans to actually integrate an email server or just to remain as a client? Not saying that that is my vote either way, just interested in the email roadmap.
So one of the goals of Nextcloud is to be super easy to install. Because of that it is a pure PHP application that is super easy to install. So we can't include a full IMAP/SMTP server. And to be honest there is also no point in reinventing the wheel. A lot of great open source mailservers exists. Just install one of them and Nextcloud can use it.
A single appliance solution would be really great. I see the long term goal of this product competing directly against O365.
Email absolutely should not ever be integrated.
Thread on their forums.
https://help.nextcloud.com/t/nextcloud-mail-server/157Integrated directly, perhaps not, but as a ride-along-side, it would be great.
If I'm using gmail for my email and want to store my files in NextCloud - what's the current solution for that? download the file local, save to NC, open in NC and use LO to edit/view the file? what a huge PITA.
Use the email client on NC, the integration is built in.
Awww - I didn't realize how the email portion of NC worked. OK sounds like they are very close to competing with O365 already... now we just need local application direct integration (as mentioned above) and we'll be set.
From what I've used, it's quite nice and it is nice that you log into NC and have all of that stuff right there. NC is moving heavily to being the central portal that you would use. That's why I'd like to see things like wiki integration or something similar so that we can use it kind of like a corporate intranet.
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What type of support does NC have for contacts and Calendars?
