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    • RomoR
      Romo
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      @stacksofplates this basically is a super fast clone of the original vm using snapshots?

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      • RomoR
        Romo
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        I haven't used external snapshots for anything, but now that I am reading about them I should be using them more.

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        • stacksofplatesS
          stacksofplates @Romo
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          @Romo said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

          @stacksofplates this basically is a super fast clone of the original vm using snapshots?

          It takes a snapshot, which directs writes to the new file. Then tars and gzips the backing store (original disk image) to wherever you put in for the location, and then merges the snapshot back into the backing store.

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates @Romo
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            @Romo said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

            I haven't used external snapshots for anything, but now that I am reading about them I should be using them more.

            I still use internal for things like updates and large changes, but the external ones are nice.

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            • RomoR
              Romo @stacksofplates
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              @stacksofplates said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

              @Romo said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

              @stacksofplates this basically is a super fast clone of the original vm using snapshots?

              It takes a snapshot, which directs writes to the new file. Then tars and gzips the backing store (original disk image) to wherever you put in for the location, and then merges the snapshot back into the backing store.

              This is too keep the system live during the backup?

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              • stacksofplatesS
                stacksofplates @Romo
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                @Romo said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                @stacksofplates said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                @Romo said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                @stacksofplates this basically is a super fast clone of the original vm using snapshots?

                It takes a snapshot, which directs writes to the new file. Then tars and gzips the backing store (original disk image) to wherever you put in for the location, and then merges the snapshot back into the backing store.

                This is too keep the system live during the backup?

                Right. If you don't do it this way, you have to either shut the VM down or suspend it.

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                • RomoR
                  Romo
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                  Are you using external snapshots to thin provision any vms? Is there a performance hit on doing this?

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                  • stacksofplatesS
                    stacksofplates @Romo
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                    @Romo said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                    Are you using external snapshots to thin provision any vms? Is there a performance hit on doing this?

                    No. I have a template that uses a qcow2 disk. It's only a 15GB disk, but since it's thin provisioned it's only around 1.5GB. I can clone it in about 1-2 seconds so I haven't bothered with doing externals for that. However, it does make a nice VDI tool. If you have an image and do qemu-img create -b and use it as the backing file, the overlays spin up really quickly. Like less than a second. But you can't write to the backing file as long as there are overlay files reading from it.

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                    • stacksofplatesS
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                      I create the template, and run virt-sysprep on it. Then I can update the disk with virt-sysprep --update. It automatically spins up a temp VM that updates all of the packages in the disk. But if you do this, you need to run virt-sysprep --selinux-relabel so it relabels the disk on the next clone. If not, labels can get screwed up;

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                      • RomoR
                        Romo @stacksofplates
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                        @stacksofplates said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                        @Romo said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                        Are you using external snapshots to thin provision any vms? Is there a performance hit on doing this?

                        No. I have a template that uses a qcow2 disk. It's only a 15GB disk, but since it's thin provisioned it's only around 1.5GB. I can clone it in about 1-2 seconds so I haven't bothered with doing externals for that.

                        My clones take 30-40 seconds, how do you thin provision? Using virt-sparsify on an image?

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates @Romo
                          last edited by

                          @Romo said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                          @stacksofplates said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                          @Romo said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                          Are you using external snapshots to thin provision any vms? Is there a performance hit on doing this?

                          No. I have a template that uses a qcow2 disk. It's only a 15GB disk, but since it's thin provisioned it's only around 1.5GB. I can clone it in about 1-2 seconds so I haven't bothered with doing externals for that.

                          My clones take 30-40 seconds, how do you thin provision? Using virt-sparsify on an image?

                          No, qcow2 is thin by default. But all of my templates are RHEL systems. So the OS doesn't use hardly any space. Are you cloning Windows machines?

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                          • RomoR
                            Romo @stacksofplates
                            last edited by

                            @stacksofplates said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                            @Romo said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                            @stacksofplates said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                            @Romo said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                            Are you using external snapshots to thin provision any vms? Is there a performance hit on doing this?

                            No. I have a template that uses a qcow2 disk. It's only a 15GB disk, but since it's thin provisioned it's only around 1.5GB. I can clone it in about 1-2 seconds so I haven't bothered with doing externals for that.

                            My clones take 30-40 seconds, how do you thin provision? Using virt-sparsify on an image?

                            No, qcow2 is thin by default. But all of my templates are RHEL systems. So the OS doesn't use hardly any space. Are you cloning Windows machines?

                            No, no windows

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                            • RomoR
                              Romo @stacksofplates
                              last edited by

                              @stacksofplates said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                              I create the template, and run virt-sysprep on it. Then I can update the disk with virt-sysprep --update. It automatically spins up a temp VM that updates all of the packages in the disk. But if you do this, you need to run virt-sysprep --selinux-relabel so it relabels the disk on the next clone. If not, labels can get screwed up;

                              Is this is only available for RHEL guests or can it be used with other distros?

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @Romo
                                last edited by

                                @Romo said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                @stacksofplates said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                @Romo said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                @stacksofplates said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                @Romo said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                Are you using external snapshots to thin provision any vms? Is there a performance hit on doing this?

                                No. I have a template that uses a qcow2 disk. It's only a 15GB disk, but since it's thin provisioned it's only around 1.5GB. I can clone it in about 1-2 seconds so I haven't bothered with doing externals for that.

                                My clones take 30-40 seconds, how do you thin provision? Using virt-sparsify on an image?

                                No, qcow2 is thin by default. But all of my templates are RHEL systems. So the OS doesn't use hardly any space. Are you cloning Windows machines?

                                No, no windows

                                Hmm, I don't have anything special. Some 300G 10K SAS drives in RAID 10.

                                Here's a video I did for Dash:
                                Youtube Video

                                And another of a script I wrote that names the VM and spins up how many instances you tell it:
                                Youtube Video

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                                • stacksofplatesS
                                  stacksofplates @Romo
                                  last edited by

                                  @Romo said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                  @stacksofplates said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                  I create the template, and run virt-sysprep on it. Then I can update the disk with virt-sysprep --update. It automatically spins up a temp VM that updates all of the packages in the disk. But if you do this, you need to run virt-sysprep --selinux-relabel so it relabels the disk on the next clone. If not, labels can get screwed up;

                                  Is this is only available for RHEL guests or can it be used with other distros?

                                  You should be able to sysprep Ubuntu also. Not sure about any others.

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                                  • RomoR
                                    Romo @stacksofplates
                                    last edited by

                                    @stacksofplates said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                    @Romo said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                    @stacksofplates said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                    @Romo said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                    @stacksofplates said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                    @Romo said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                    Are you using external snapshots to thin provision any vms? Is there a performance hit on doing this?

                                    No. I have a template that uses a qcow2 disk. It's only a 15GB disk, but since it's thin provisioned it's only around 1.5GB. I can clone it in about 1-2 seconds so I haven't bothered with doing externals for that.

                                    My clones take 30-40 seconds, how do you thin provision? Using virt-sparsify on an image?

                                    No, qcow2 is thin by default. But all of my templates are RHEL systems. So the OS doesn't use hardly any space. Are you cloning Windows machines?

                                    No, no windows

                                    Hmm, I don't have anything special. Some 300G 10K SAS drives in RAID 10.

                                    Here's a video I did for Dash:
                                    Youtube Video

                                    And another of a script I wrote that names the VM and spins up how many instances you tell it:
                                    Youtube Video

                                    I want that speed!! I am on 4 500GB 7200 SATA in RAID 10

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                                    • stacksofplatesS
                                      stacksofplates @Romo
                                      last edited by

                                      @Romo said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                      @stacksofplates said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                      @Romo said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                      @stacksofplates said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                      @Romo said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                      @stacksofplates said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                      @Romo said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                      Are you using external snapshots to thin provision any vms? Is there a performance hit on doing this?

                                      No. I have a template that uses a qcow2 disk. It's only a 15GB disk, but since it's thin provisioned it's only around 1.5GB. I can clone it in about 1-2 seconds so I haven't bothered with doing externals for that.

                                      My clones take 30-40 seconds, how do you thin provision? Using virt-sparsify on an image?

                                      No, qcow2 is thin by default. But all of my templates are RHEL systems. So the OS doesn't use hardly any space. Are you cloning Windows machines?

                                      No, no windows

                                      Hmm, I don't have anything special. Some 300G 10K SAS drives in RAID 10.

                                      Here's a video I did for Dash:
                                      Youtube Video

                                      And another of a script I wrote that names the VM and spins up how many instances you tell it:
                                      Youtube Video

                                      I want that speed!! I am on 4 500GB 7200 SATA in RAID 10

                                      How big is your template?

                                      2.0G -rw-------. 1 root root  16G Feb 13 03:37 template.qcow2
                                      

                                      That's what I have.

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                                      • stacksofplatesS
                                        stacksofplates
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                                        Also it's not virt-sysprep --update it's virt-customize --update. I didn't think that was right, so I just went back and looked.

                                        I have a daily cron job that runs this

                                        /bin/virt-customize --update --selinux-relabel -a /data/VMs/template.qcow2
                                        
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                                        • RomoR
                                          Romo @stacksofplates
                                          last edited by

                                          @stacksofplates said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                          @Romo said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                          @stacksofplates said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                          @Romo said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                          @stacksofplates said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                          @Romo said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                          @stacksofplates said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                          @Romo said in KVM Snapshot/Backup Script:

                                          Are you using external snapshots to thin provision any vms? Is there a performance hit on doing this?

                                          No. I have a template that uses a qcow2 disk. It's only a 15GB disk, but since it's thin provisioned it's only around 1.5GB. I can clone it in about 1-2 seconds so I haven't bothered with doing externals for that.

                                          My clones take 30-40 seconds, how do you thin provision? Using virt-sparsify on an image?

                                          No, qcow2 is thin by default. But all of my templates are RHEL systems. So the OS doesn't use hardly any space. Are you cloning Windows machines?

                                          No, no windows

                                          Hmm, I don't have anything special. Some 300G 10K SAS drives in RAID 10.

                                          Here's a video I did for Dash:
                                          Youtube Video

                                          And another of a script I wrote that names the VM and spins up how many instances you tell it:
                                          Youtube Video

                                          I want that speed!! I am on 4 500GB 7200 SATA in RAID 10

                                          How big is your template?

                                          2.0G -rw-------. 1 root root  16G Feb 13 03:37 template.qcow2
                                          

                                          That's what I have.

                                          Way bigger, apparently its not thing provisioned at all

                                          1 root root 2.9G Oct 26 17:39 centos7-clone.qcow2
                                          1 root root  26G Feb  8 15:35 centos-7.qcow2
                                          
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                                          • RomoR
                                            Romo
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                                            I use this to create my image and the use virt-manager to finish the install

                                            qemu-img create -f qcow2 -o preallocation=metadata centos-7.qcow2 25G
                                            
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