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    Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?

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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @aidan_walsh
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      @aidan_walsh There are a bunch of DFS's in existence, but are you really capable of deploying them to your working fleet of windows PC's?

      One of the key things with AetherStore is you're supported, and the cost is negligible compared to the weeks or months of setting up your own implementation.

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      • stacksofplatesS
        stacksofplates @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

        @aidan_walsh There are a bunch of DFS's in existence, but are you really capable of deploying them to your working fleet of windows PC's?

        One of the key things with AetherStore is you're supported, and the cost is negligible compared to the weeks or months of setting up your own implementation.

        Seems crazy that list doesn't have GFS2.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @stacksofplates
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          @stacksofplates yeah... idk why it's not there. Is GFS2 only available on RedHat?

          Seems odd that it would be....

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @aidan_walsh
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            @aidan_walsh said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

            Does anyone know of an open source implementation or alternative to this? Just a distributed file system?

            It looks like a good utility but I'm not sure I'm comfortable paying a company to manage tiered storage on my own hardware if I can do the same myself.

            Things like Gluster can do this. But you'll have to spend a lot of time building this out. You'll likely want to build a VM on top of each box, put Gluster on that and then encrypt the VM store (maybe not in that order). But I don't know of any technology that's designed to handle the "it can drop off the network" issues that AetherStore tackles.

            You can make stuff that kind of does this, but nothing off of the shelf is designed for this use case. So there is a lot of work that you'll have to do on your own to get it to work.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

              @stacksofplates yeah... idk why it's not there. Is GFS2 only available on RedHat?

              Seems odd that it would be....

              Well, it's a RH product. 🙂

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                One of the key things with AetherStore is you're supported, and the cost is negligible compared to the weeks or months of setting up your own implementation.

                That's a big deal. The time it would take for someone to set up their own would likely pay (in terms of their time) many, many years of AetherStore top tier product while likely lacking a lot of the features and benefits (and ongoing development.)

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                  @stacksofplates said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                  @aidan_walsh There are a bunch of DFS's in existence, but are you really capable of deploying them to your working fleet of windows PC's?

                  One of the key things with AetherStore is you're supported, and the cost is negligible compared to the weeks or months of setting up your own implementation.

                  Seems crazy that list doesn't have GFS2.

                  GFS2 is a CFS, not a DFS. It goes on a SAN.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                    @stacksofplates yeah... idk why it's not there. Is GFS2 only available on RedHat?

                    Seems odd that it would be....

                    Well, it's a RH product. 🙂

                    Well that helps to explain it. 😄

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                    • stacksofplatesS
                      stacksofplates @DustinB3403
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                      @DustinB3403 said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                      @stacksofplates yeah... idk why it's not there. Is GFS2 only available on RedHat?

                      Seems odd that it would be....

                      I mean you might be able to use it on something else, I never looked into it but it's developed by RedHat.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @stacksofplates
                        last edited by

                        @stacksofplates said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                        @stacksofplates yeah... idk why it's not there. Is GFS2 only available on RedHat?

                        Seems odd that it would be....

                        I mean you might be able to use it on something else, I never looked into it but it's developed by RedHat.

                        Developed by RedHat doesn't mean it's available publicly, like RedHat isn't available publicly under the RedHat name. It's available under the CentOS name.

                        So maybe it's named something different on CentOS?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                          @stacksofplates yeah... idk why it's not there. Is GFS2 only available on RedHat?

                          Seems odd that it would be....

                          Well, it's a RH product. 🙂

                          Well that helps to explain it. 😄

                          It's free and open source, but most distros focus on OCFS (from Oracle) or VxFS (commercial from Veritas) and RH really focuses on GFS2.

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                          • stacksofplatesS
                            stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                            @stacksofplates said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                            @aidan_walsh There are a bunch of DFS's in existence, but are you really capable of deploying them to your working fleet of windows PC's?

                            One of the key things with AetherStore is you're supported, and the cost is negligible compared to the weeks or months of setting up your own implementation.

                            Seems crazy that list doesn't have GFS2.

                            GFS2 is a CFS, not a DFS. It goes on a SAN.

                            I thought you could do parallel read/write over multiple nodes with it also.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                              @stacksofplates said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                              @DustinB3403 said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                              @stacksofplates yeah... idk why it's not there. Is GFS2 only available on RedHat?

                              Seems odd that it would be....

                              I mean you might be able to use it on something else, I never looked into it but it's developed by RedHat.

                              Definitely available on Suse...

                              https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=openSUSE%3ALeap%3A42.1&package=gfs2-utils

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @DustinB3403
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                                @DustinB3403 said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                                @stacksofplates said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                                @stacksofplates yeah... idk why it's not there. Is GFS2 only available on RedHat?

                                Seems odd that it would be....

                                I mean you might be able to use it on something else, I never looked into it but it's developed by RedHat.

                                Developed by RedHat doesn't mean it's available publicly, like RedHat isn't available publicly under the RedHat name. It's available under the CentOS name.

                                So maybe it's named something different on CentOS?

                                It's available publicly. It's open source.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                                  last edited by

                                  @stacksofplates said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                                  @stacksofplates said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                                  @aidan_walsh There are a bunch of DFS's in existence, but are you really capable of deploying them to your working fleet of windows PC's?

                                  One of the key things with AetherStore is you're supported, and the cost is negligible compared to the weeks or months of setting up your own implementation.

                                  Seems crazy that list doesn't have GFS2.

                                  GFS2 is a CFS, not a DFS. It goes on a SAN.

                                  I thought you could do parallel read/write over multiple nodes with it also.

                                  You can, that's a CFS. But it's just a filesystem. DFS handle the distribution, CFS just work when the underlying system is distributed OR when it is not. For example, CFS work on a SAN, DFS replace a SAN.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                                    @stacksofplates said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                                    @stacksofplates yeah... idk why it's not there. Is GFS2 only available on RedHat?

                                    Seems odd that it would be....

                                    I mean you might be able to use it on something else, I never looked into it but it's developed by RedHat.

                                    Developed by RedHat doesn't mean it's available publicly, like RedHat isn't available publicly under the RedHat name. It's available under the CentOS name.

                                    So maybe it's named something different on CentOS?

                                    Actually it does I think, but only because of corporate policy.

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                                    • stacksofplatesS
                                      stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                                      @stacksofplates said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                                      @stacksofplates said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                                      @aidan_walsh There are a bunch of DFS's in existence, but are you really capable of deploying them to your working fleet of windows PC's?

                                      One of the key things with AetherStore is you're supported, and the cost is negligible compared to the weeks or months of setting up your own implementation.

                                      Seems crazy that list doesn't have GFS2.

                                      GFS2 is a CFS, not a DFS. It goes on a SAN.

                                      I thought you could do parallel read/write over multiple nodes with it also.

                                      You can, that's a CFS. But it's just a filesystem. DFS handle the distribution, CFS just work when the underlying system is distributed OR when it is not. For example, CFS work on a SAN, DFS replace a SAN.

                                      Ah ic what you mean.

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                                      • stacksofplatesS
                                        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                                        @stacksofplates said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                                        @stacksofplates yeah... idk why it's not there. Is GFS2 only available on RedHat?

                                        Seems odd that it would be....

                                        I mean you might be able to use it on something else, I never looked into it but it's developed by RedHat.

                                        Developed by RedHat doesn't mean it's available publicly, like RedHat isn't available publicly under the RedHat name. It's available under the CentOS name.

                                        So maybe it's named something different on CentOS?

                                        Actually it does I think, but only because of corporate policy.

                                        I think it's just gfs2-utils

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          Ubuntu 16.10 has GFS2

                                          apt-get install gfs2-utils
                                          

                                          Just tested on my laptop.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                                            last edited by

                                            @stacksofplates said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                                            @stacksofplates said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Why Choose AetherStore Over a NAS?:

                                            @stacksofplates yeah... idk why it's not there. Is GFS2 only available on RedHat?

                                            Seems odd that it would be....

                                            I mean you might be able to use it on something else, I never looked into it but it's developed by RedHat.

                                            Developed by RedHat doesn't mean it's available publicly, like RedHat isn't available publicly under the RedHat name. It's available under the CentOS name.

                                            So maybe it's named something different on CentOS?

                                            Actually it does I think, but only because of corporate policy.

                                            I think it's just gfs2-utils

                                            Yes, that's its name.

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