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    • travisdh1T
      travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Setup 3 node cluster:

      @travisdh1 said in Setup 3 node cluster:

      You can't do it like @scale does it, because they customized DRBL to handle the storage backend. If you really want something like what Scale does, then you'll need to setup KVM with a DRBL storage backend on each node.

      What the heck is DRBL? Diskless Remote Boot Linux is the only thing I know of with that acronym.

      KVM would need something like CEPH to do something like Scale. CEPH is nowhere near on par with SCRIBE, though.

      I'm mixing acronyms this afternoon. Should be CEPH as it seems everything I used to know has been rolled into that now.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @matthewaroth35
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        @matthewaroth35 said in Setup 3 node cluster:

        @scottalanmiller i want to build a non scale hyperconverge cluster. yes. I already bought scale. I want to use my old equipment and build a 3 node cluster "LIKE" scale.

        Ah ha. Okay, well that's easier said than done, but it can be done. You have three free hypervisor choices: Xen, KVM and Hyper-V. KVM is by far the hardest here, so not likely what you are looking for, even though KVM is what Scale uses. Scale makes KVM easier, on its own it is not.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          So Hyper-V or XenServer are your options. On Hyper-V you only have the choice of non-free Starwind with three nodes. On XenServer you have that option, plus others like CEPH and Gluster.

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            matthewaroth35
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            Ok. I have 3 hp g7 same model. I want to set them all up as a cluster. same way scale does.

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              Alex Sage
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              Like this?

              https://xen-orchestra.com/blog/xenserver-hyperconverged/

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Setup 3 node cluster:

                KVM is by far the hardest here

                Really?

                I find it on par with VMware + vSphere client if you use the Linux Virt-Manager GUI... Super easy to me.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  Is the XO HC solution ready to be tested?

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                    Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller No.

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                    • dafyreD
                      dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Setup 3 node cluster:

                      Is the XO HC solution ready to be tested?

                      Ask @olivier .

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                        @aaronstuder said in Setup 3 node cluster:

                        @scottalanmiller No.

                        LOL, that's why I had not mentioned it. Would be perfect if ready.

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                          Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by Alex Sage

                          @scottalanmiller Right, but will still tell us if that is what he wants to accomplish.

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                            Alex Sage
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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Setup 3 node cluster:

                              Is the XO HC solution ready to be tested?

                              Good point, @matthewaroth35, pm @olivier, if you sweet talk him, he might give you access to the HA they're working on.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @matthewaroth35
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                                @matthewaroth35 said in Setup 3 node cluster:

                                Ok. I have 3 hp g7 same model. I want to set them all up as a cluster. same way scale does.

                                What Scale does is highly unique. What you have is a modified hypervisor that knows about the storage, a customer storage layer that is very advanced and designed specifically for this use and a then a customer web management layer that controls it all for you. That's not something you can build at home.

                                You can use VMware + VSAN (very expensive) or Hyper-V + StarWind (not cheap) to do this without some crazy complication. But I'm assuming that for an "old cluster" you aren't looking for an investment. If you were, you'd just buy more Scale gear.

                                So you are going to be looking at free. And probably Xen or KVM + CEPH is going to do that and that's not trivial, at all.

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                                  Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Setup 3 node cluster:

                                  Hyper-V + StarWind (not cheap)

                                  HyperV with Virtual Machine Replication might be a good fit.

                                  It's completely free, minimal downtime, but not HA. (No Shared Storage Needed)

                                  https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/canitpro/2013/04/07/step-by-step-virtual-machine-replication-using-hyper-v-replica/

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    And it should be noted that none of these solutions address things like the single pane of glass management, automatic load balancing and such of Scale.

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                                      matthewaroth35
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                                      Basically this is a testing environment just to play around

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                                        matthewaroth35
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                                        but if I needed to spin up something to put in production I could ... I really dont know what i want to do with this thing. I just want to do it.. LOL

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                                          Alex Sage
                                          last edited by Alex Sage

                                          XenServer with Xen Orchestra using Continuous Replication would be a good fit.also.

                                          Completely free, minimal downtime, but not HA. (No Shared Storage Needed)

                                          https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/continuous_replication.html

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                                            matthewaroth35
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                                            Ok.. i have to give it a shot and play around with things. LOL. BOY AND OOUR TOYS

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