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    • FiyaFlyF
      FiyaFly @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 When you're fighting office politics like that, my vote is if you've got your foot in the door enough for them to be interested enough to answer a questionnaire, your response to 'I'm not authorized' might best be something along the lines of 'Then point me to someone who is' (just put nicer). Honestly they must understand to an extent you cannot help them without getting information.

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      • FiyaFlyF
        FiyaFly
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        It's starting to sound to me, without additional information, that these questionnaires you're sending out are to the wrong people. The head honchos will know speeds because they made that decision. The IT will know because they're IT. Who else are you sending it to?

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @FiyaFly
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          @FiyaFly said in Ways to describe location bandwidth requirements:

          It's starting to sound to me, without additional information, that these questionnaires you're sending out are to the wrong people. The head honchos will know speeds because they made that decision. The IT will know because they're IT. Who else are you sending it to?

          The customer who specifically orders our services, unfortunately that person is rarely involved or in direct communication with someone from the IT department.

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          • FiyaFlyF
            FiyaFly @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403
            Considering that they are decision makers, they should have a decent idea on what speeds of internet they pay for, especially if they are deciding on purchases of IT services.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
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              We aren't an IT service provider. But I do see how this conversation could make you think that.

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              • FiyaFlyF
                FiyaFly @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 Fair enough. My mistake for assuming on that one. I apologize. Though, still in my mind, as a decision maker they should, in theory, have at least some knowledge on that purchase, or be able to find it. Maybe not via speed test, but via billing, IT, C-level execs. I feel like in this day and age quite a few departments have an idea of that.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @FiyaFly
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                  @FiyaFly So what do you think is a decent way to ask the question?

                  To me asking "What is your facilities internet speed?" seems awkwardly posed. Some times these people are just buyers and are directed by higher ups to call us, order X and get it done by some day.

                  Which is fine of course. But the detail is still needed, without being overly complicated.

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                  • FiyaFlyF
                    FiyaFly
                    last edited by FiyaFly

                    Well, I would see it as you have two ways you can go about it, depending on your reasoning for finding out this information.

                    "How fast is your internet?" coupled with "Do you find yourself waiting for pages to load or items to download more than you'd like?" may be a good starting point without getting into detail. It will at least tell you their level of satisfaction with their current speeds.

                    Or

                    "What internet speed does your company pay for?"

                    This should at the very least prompt them to ask the right people. If they were tasked with taking interest in your services, they should be at least partially invested in getting you the information you need.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @FiyaFly
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                      @FiyaFly said in Ways to describe location bandwidth requirements:

                      @DustinB3403 Fair enough. My mistake for assuming on that one. I apologize. Though, still in my mind, as a decision maker they should, in theory, have at least some knowledge on that purchase, or be able to find it. Maybe not via speed test, but via billing, IT, C-level execs. I feel like in this day and age quite a few departments have an idea of that.

                      Oh man - this is a problem I have around here - people just decide that they need a new website to make something work. be damned that the website needs a 4 year old version of Java and only runs on XP - they gotta have it.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
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                        I think you might have failed long before you come to this point.

                        Why not back this whole thing up.

                        On your website that talks about your services, have a button that says - test my connection to make sure this service will work for you. have you web team install their own speed test - thing - and you can do a test directly from your own system to make sure they won't have any issues because they even look any further.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said in Ways to describe location bandwidth requirements:

                          I think you might have failed long before you come to this point.

                          Why not back this whole thing up.

                          On your website that talks about your services, have a button that says - test my connection to make sure this service will work for you. have you web team install their own speed test - thing - and you can do a test directly from your own system to make sure they won't have any issues because they even look any further.

                          The issue with this is that we could potentially loose clients without even knowing about them. And we can still provide our service, just a less bandwidth intense variety of it.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said in Ways to describe location bandwidth requirements:

                            @Dashrender said in Ways to describe location bandwidth requirements:

                            I think you might have failed long before you come to this point.

                            Why not back this whole thing up.

                            On your website that talks about your services, have a button that says - test my connection to make sure this service will work for you. have you web team install their own speed test - thing - and you can do a test directly from your own system to make sure they won't have any issues because they even look any further.

                            The issue with this is that we could potentially loose clients without even knowing about them. And we can still provide our service, just a less bandwidth intense variety of it.

                            Then make your website give the options - or don't do the test until after they click through. But make the running of the test a requirement when someone calls you - Hey before I can talk about pricing for whatever, you need to visit our website and click this button. The questionnaire seems just weird.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender And what if the buyer isn't at the facility where the bulk of the participants are joining from? Or what if there are participants joining from a starbucks or mc.d's etc. . .

                              Then we'd have misleading information and the supposed promise of a successful product delivery.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                                @DustinB3403 said in Ways to describe location bandwidth requirements:

                                @Dashrender And what if the buyer isn't at the facility where the bulk of the participants are joining from? Or what if there are participants joining from a starbucks or mc.d's etc. . .

                                Then we'd have misleading information and the supposed promise of a successful product delivery.

                                LOL like you can ever get away from that! Then you list in HUGE letters - these tests need to be done from any locatoin that will be used for this training to ensure compatibility.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said in Ways to describe location bandwidth requirements:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Ways to describe location bandwidth requirements:

                                  @Dashrender And what if the buyer isn't at the facility where the bulk of the participants are joining from? Or what if there are participants joining from a starbucks or mc.d's etc. . .

                                  Then we'd have misleading information and the supposed promise of a successful product delivery.

                                  LOL like you can ever get away from that! Then you list in HUGE letters - these tests need to be done from any locatoin that will be used for this training to ensure compatibility.

                                  Eh.... "conditions apply dial-up internet not supported. TWC $14.99 not supported"

                                  I see the customers running already... 😛

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @DustinB3403
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                                    @DustinB3403 said in Ways to describe location bandwidth requirements:

                                    @Dashrender said in Ways to describe location bandwidth requirements:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Ways to describe location bandwidth requirements:

                                    @Dashrender And what if the buyer isn't at the facility where the bulk of the participants are joining from? Or what if there are participants joining from a starbucks or mc.d's etc. . .

                                    Then we'd have misleading information and the supposed promise of a successful product delivery.

                                    LOL like you can ever get away from that! Then you list in HUGE letters - these tests need to be done from any locatoin that will be used for this training to ensure compatibility.

                                    Eh.... "conditions apply dial-up internet not supported. TWC $14.99 not supported"

                                    I see the customers running already... 😛

                                    running away...

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                      @DustinB3403 said in Ways to describe location bandwidth requirements:

                                      @Dashrender said in Ways to describe location bandwidth requirements:

                                      I think you might have failed long before you come to this point.

                                      Why not back this whole thing up.

                                      On your website that talks about your services, have a button that says - test my connection to make sure this service will work for you. have you web team install their own speed test - thing - and you can do a test directly from your own system to make sure they won't have any issues because they even look any further.

                                      The issue with this is that we could potentially loose clients without even knowing about them. And we can still provide our service, just a less bandwidth intense variety of it.

                                      Maybe just detect the speed and adapt accordingly.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Ways to describe location bandwidth requirements:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Ways to describe location bandwidth requirements:

                                        @Dashrender said in Ways to describe location bandwidth requirements:

                                        I think you might have failed long before you come to this point.

                                        Why not back this whole thing up.

                                        On your website that talks about your services, have a button that says - test my connection to make sure this service will work for you. have you web team install their own speed test - thing - and you can do a test directly from your own system to make sure they won't have any issues because they even look any further.

                                        The issue with this is that we could potentially loose clients without even knowing about them. And we can still provide our service, just a less bandwidth intense variety of it.

                                        Maybe just detect the speed and adapt accordingly.

                                        Our system does this already, and the result is an unacceptable live product. There are other solutions, but others put the cart before the horse here and bought expensive software and are determined to "make it work".

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                                          @DustinB3403 said in Ways to describe location bandwidth requirements:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Ways to describe location bandwidth requirements:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Ways to describe location bandwidth requirements:

                                          @Dashrender said in Ways to describe location bandwidth requirements:

                                          I think you might have failed long before you come to this point.

                                          Why not back this whole thing up.

                                          On your website that talks about your services, have a button that says - test my connection to make sure this service will work for you. have you web team install their own speed test - thing - and you can do a test directly from your own system to make sure they won't have any issues because they even look any further.

                                          The issue with this is that we could potentially loose clients without even knowing about them. And we can still provide our service, just a less bandwidth intense variety of it.

                                          Maybe just detect the speed and adapt accordingly.

                                          Our system does this already, and the result is an unacceptable live product. There are other solutions, but others put the cart before the horse here and bought expensive software and are determined to "make it work".

                                          LOL - sunk cost fallacy

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said in Ways to describe location bandwidth requirements:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Ways to describe location bandwidth requirements:

                                            @Dashrender And what if the buyer isn't at the facility where the bulk of the participants are joining from? Or what if there are participants joining from a starbucks or mc.d's etc. . .

                                            Then we'd have misleading information and the supposed promise of a successful product delivery.

                                            LOL like you can ever get away from that! Then you list in HUGE letters - these tests need to be done from any locatoin that will be used for this training to ensure compatibility.

                                            This happens all the time - and internet connections change, you the resller can't control that.

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