What router are you using at home?
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@scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:
Then there is only them to blame
Trusting sources like Consumer Reports, widely known to use carefully selected apples to orange comparisons to make their assumed sponsored problems look good it, is just ridiculous and really just a thinly veiled excuse to not bothering to research the product at all.Who said that this is widely known? Prove your bias.
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@JaredBusch said in What router are you using at home?:
@scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:
Then there is only them to blame
Trusting sources like Consumer Reports, widely known to use carefully selected apples to orange comparisons to make their assumed sponsored problems look good it, is just ridiculous and really just a thinly veiled excuse to not bothering to research the product at all.Who said that this is widely known? Prove your bias.
It's pretty widely known when trade publications run articles on the skewed methods or anyone just looks at the products and sees that they compare very limited and very offset products from different vendors. Takes nothing more than common sense and looking at the reviews. Avoiding competitive products so that the chosen products have no competition, for example.
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@scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:
@Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:
Most people don't. They assume the author to have done this work (as they should) before making a comparison than asking why this product appear inferior.
Then there is only them to blame
Trusting sources like Consumer Reports, widely known to use carefully selected apples to orange comparisons to make their assumed sponsored problems look good it, is just ridiculous and really just a thinly veiled excuse to not bothering to research the product at all.This is research at a consumer level. You have no grip of reality outside your own point of view.
Are you trying to tell me a consumer is supposed to even know what all those numbers mean?
This is not something a typical consumer should ever need to figure out. Otherwise, they would be leaving the realm of consumer. -
@JaredBusch said in What router are you using at home?:
@scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:
@Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:
Most people don't. They assume the author to have done this work (as they should) before making a comparison than asking why this product appear inferior.
Then there is only them to blame
Trusting sources like Consumer Reports, widely known to use carefully selected apples to orange comparisons to make their assumed sponsored problems look good it, is just ridiculous and really just a thinly veiled excuse to not bothering to research the product at all.This is research at a consumer level. You have no grip of reality outside your own point of view.
Are you trying to tell me a consumer is supposed to even know what all those numbers mean?
This is not something a typical consumer should ever need to figure out. Otherwise, they would be leaving the realm of consumer.Supposed to? Yes, absolutely. Cares to pay attention or actually cares which is better? No.
That's the difference. I don't think consumers are stupid, just have very different priorities and don't use tools like this, normally, to research but to justify pre-disposed decisions. They use the echo chamber effect to reduce buyer's remorse.
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what about a fritz box? heard really good things. don't know about availability outside europe.
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@matteo-nunziati said in What router are you using at home?:
what about a fritz box? heard really good things. don't know about availability outside europe.
Never seen or heard of it, but I'm pretty out of touch with US stores. What does it do that is special?
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@scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:
@matteo-nunziati said in What router are you using at home?:
what about a fritz box? heard really good things. don't know about availability outside europe.
Never seen or heard of it, but I'm pretty out of touch with US stores. What does it do that is special?
every time someone reviews it or I meet a user, they say/show they have the best throughput of that price range.
it is basically faster than high priced netgears/asus and the so...OS is just ok. Let say that, according to reviews, it is the ubiquiti of the consumer grade HW. Well ubiquiti is so cheap you can even pick it at home but the main target is another.
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@matteo-nunziati said in What router are you using at home?:
OS is just ok. Let say that, according to reviews, it is the ubiquiti of the consumer grade HW. Well ubiquiti is so cheap you can even pick it at home but the main target is another.
Right, why would anyone look at consumer is my question. Sure it can look cool or you really want an all in one, but unless there is a killer feature, once commercial gear is as cheap as consumer, consumer simply gets reclassified as junk (unless there is a special feature.) Because the point of consumer, in most cases, is to be cheap and quality or features sacrificed in order to be cheap.
Like a consumer camera is fine, because it is so much cheaper than a pro camera. But if pro cameras get as cheap or cheaper than consumer ones, consumers ones are just garbage.
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@matteo-nunziati said in What router are you using at home?:
what about a fritz box? heard really good things. don't know about availability outside europe.
As awesome as this thing looks, it is not compatible with US cable networks as we are on standard DOCSIS instead of EuroDOCSIS. Is there a difference? Yes there is. The difference is frequencies at which each of the standards are running at. Where the US is typically going to be in the 400 MHz range, I am not sure where Europe is going to be, but do know that it is not within the same range.
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@NerdyDad said in What router are you using at home?:
@matteo-nunziati said in What router are you using at home?:
what about a fritz box? heard really good things. don't know about availability outside europe.
As awesome as this thing looks, it is not compatible with US cable networks as we are on standard DOCSIS instead of EuroDOCSIS. Is there a difference? Yes there is. The difference is frequencies at which each of the standards are running at. Where the US is typically going to be in the 400 MHz range, I am not sure where Europe is going to be, but do know that it is not within the same range.
And, of course, in the US being "on the fritz" means that something is broken
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I have a SOnicwall TZ 300 at home and I have other homes (Friends and Family) with Ubiquiti EdgeRouter
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@dbeato said in What router are you using at home?:
I have a SOnicwall TZ 300 at home and I have other homes (Friends and Family) with Ubiquiti EdgeRouter
I dealt with a SonicWall for a few years at work. I hated it.
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@matteo-nunziati said in What router are you using at home?:
what about a fritz box? heard really good things. don't know about availability outside europe.
We have them here. Very good all in one.
Not very common but they're here. -
@IRJ Haven't had problems with Sonicwall, but again I am good fan of them and Ubiquiti Routers.
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The crappy uverse DSL one.
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@scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:
Sure it can look cool or you really want an all in one, but unless there is a killer feature
THIS!
to use ubiquiti stuff at home I need:
- a modem (rj11 phone line<-> modem <> rj45 network WAN)
- an edge router (routing between LAN and WAN)
- an access point
my living room has enough nasty cabling, knowing that a good all in one is around is great.
while I like the idea to poke with ubiquiti stuff, I'm going to have a fight with my wife if I add additional cabling/complexity inside my IKEA bookshelf (yeah my gear is on an IKEA book shelf straight in the living room, coz here are the phone connections for the ADSL)
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@matteo-nunziati one of the things that I like about my Ubiquiti is that the AP looks clean and neat on the wall and the router gets hidden away. No need for an all in one in the middle of the room.
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@matteo-nunziati Have you looked at Amplifi? https://www.amplifi.com/
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@IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:
@dbeato said in What router are you using at home?:
I have a SOnicwall TZ 300 at home and I have other homes (Friends and Family) with Ubiquiti EdgeRouter
I dealt with a SonicWall for a few years at work. I hated it.
Me too. Bad even by UTM standards
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@matteo-nunziati said in What router are you using at home?:
@scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:
Sure it can look cool or you really want an all in one, but unless there is a killer feature
THIS!
to use ubiquiti stuff at home I need:
- a modem (rj11 phone line<-> modem <> rj45 network WAN)
- an edge router (routing between LAN and WAN)
- an access point
my living room has enough nasty cabling, knowing that a good all in one is around is great.
while I like the idea to poke with ubiquiti stuff, I'm going to have a fight with my wife if I add additional cabling/complexity inside my IKEA bookshelf (yeah my gear is on an IKEA book shelf straight in the living room, coz here are the phone connections for the ADSL)
Get the right combination of Ubiquiti equipment and you really don't have that problem. I've got an ER-POE and UAP-AC-PRO at home, and really no extra cables with that pair. The same with the ER-X and UAP-AC-LITE at work, using PoE means not a whole lot of wires to run.
