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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
      last edited by wirestyle22

      @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

      @wirestyle22 said in What router are you using at home?:

      @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

      AC1900

      http://www.bestbuy.com/site/shop/dd-wrt-routers

      BestBuy knows what ddwrt is apparently

      That's exactly the thing I would most expect them to know.

      I have zero expectations of BestBuy. Their employees don't know what a heatsink is

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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        @wirestyle22 said in What router are you using at home?:

        @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

        @wirestyle22 said in What router are you using at home?:

        @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

        AC1900

        http://www.bestbuy.com/site/shop/dd-wrt-routers

        BestBuy knows what ddwrt is apparently

        That's exactly the thing I would most expect them to know.

        I have zero expectations of BestBuy

        That's a very bench tech thing to do. Nothing wrong or against DD-WRT, but it's so the "cool kid" thing to do at home that you totally expect Best Buy to be on top of that.

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        • wirestyle22W
          wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

          @wirestyle22 said in What router are you using at home?:

          @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

          @wirestyle22 said in What router are you using at home?:

          @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

          AC1900

          http://www.bestbuy.com/site/shop/dd-wrt-routers

          BestBuy knows what ddwrt is apparently

          That's exactly the thing I would most expect them to know.

          I have zero expectations of BestBuy

          That's a very bench tech thing to do. Nothing wrong or against DD-WRT, but it's so the "cool kid" thing to do at home that you totally expect Best Buy to be on top of that.

          Yeah I could see that actually. Good point.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @IRJ
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            @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

            Asus AC1900 vs Ubiquiti AC-Lite

            https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Wireless/Performance-Asus-AC1900-vs-Unifi-AC-Lite/td-p/1657284

            The page tells you exactly what you would expect, they aren't comparing apples to apples in the test in the OP.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @IRJ
              last edited by

              @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

              @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

              @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

              @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

              @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

              My point is that Asus routers are well known for their performance vs other consumer grade products including linksys.

              But why compare to that category? Linksys I've always found to be pretty bad, being good in comparison isn't a selling point.

              Because the price point matches that category well.

              I don't see how that is relevant. Why not compare quality in general, not "only quality compared to a bad category?" What does "price point matching" mean, especially in a market where consume and commercial overlap.

              It is an all in one networking device with enterprise features and performance very similar to Ubiquiti.

              Does all in one really matter?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                My point is that Asus routers are well known for their performance vs other consumer grade products including linksys.

                But why compare to that category? Linksys I've always found to be pretty bad, being good in comparison isn't a selling point.

                Because the price point matches that category well.

                I don't see how that is relevant. Why not compare quality in general, not "only quality compared to a bad category?" What does "price point matching" mean, especially in a market where consume and commercial overlap.

                It is an all in one networking device with enterprise features and performance very similar to Ubiquiti.

                Does all in one really matter?

                It can, but generally I see that as a negative, not a positive. Harder to service, less flexible, etc.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                  @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                  @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                  @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                  @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                  @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                  @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                  My point is that Asus routers are well known for their performance vs other consumer grade products including linksys.

                  But why compare to that category? Linksys I've always found to be pretty bad, being good in comparison isn't a selling point.

                  Because the price point matches that category well.

                  I don't see how that is relevant. Why not compare quality in general, not "only quality compared to a bad category?" What does "price point matching" mean, especially in a market where consume and commercial overlap.

                  It is an all in one networking device with enterprise features and performance very similar to Ubiquiti.

                  Does all in one really matter?

                  It can, but generally I see that as a negative, not a positive. Harder to service, less flexible, etc.

                  I can see home users wanting only one thing to deal with - but if you're posting here - That instantly puts you out of the home user market in my mind.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                    @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                    @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                    @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                    @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                    My point is that Asus routers are well known for their performance vs other consumer grade products including linksys.

                    But why compare to that category? Linksys I've always found to be pretty bad, being good in comparison isn't a selling point.

                    Because the price point matches that category well.

                    I don't see how that is relevant. Why not compare quality in general, not "only quality compared to a bad category?" What does "price point matching" mean, especially in a market where consume and commercial overlap.

                    It is an all in one networking device with enterprise features and performance very similar to Ubiquiti.

                    Does all in one really matter?

                    It can, but generally I see that as a negative, not a positive. Harder to service, less flexible, etc.

                    I can see home users wanting only one thing to deal with - but if you're posting here - That instantly puts you out of the home user market in my mind.

                    Even then, generally home users only "want that" because they are told that that is what home users use.

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                    • wirestyle22W
                      wirestyle22 @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                      @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                      @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                      @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                      My point is that Asus routers are well known for their performance vs other consumer grade products including linksys.

                      But why compare to that category? Linksys I've always found to be pretty bad, being good in comparison isn't a selling point.

                      Because the price point matches that category well.

                      I don't see how that is relevant. Why not compare quality in general, not "only quality compared to a bad category?" What does "price point matching" mean, especially in a market where consume and commercial overlap.

                      It is an all in one networking device with enterprise features and performance very similar to Ubiquiti.

                      Does all in one really matter?

                      Same principle as a UTM imo

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                        last edited by

                        @wirestyle22 said in What router are you using at home?:

                        @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                        @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                        @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                        @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                        My point is that Asus routers are well known for their performance vs other consumer grade products including linksys.

                        But why compare to that category? Linksys I've always found to be pretty bad, being good in comparison isn't a selling point.

                        Because the price point matches that category well.

                        I don't see how that is relevant. Why not compare quality in general, not "only quality compared to a bad category?" What does "price point matching" mean, especially in a market where consume and commercial overlap.

                        It is an all in one networking device with enterprise features and performance very similar to Ubiquiti.

                        Does all in one really matter?

                        Same principle as a UTM imo

                        In a broad sense, yes.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                          @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                          Asus AC1900 vs Ubiquiti AC-Lite

                          https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Wireless/Performance-Asus-AC1900-vs-Unifi-AC-Lite/td-p/1657284

                          The page tells you exactly what you would expect, they aren't comparing apples to apples in the test in the OP.

                          But the OP did not know that. Hence he posted that. Now he knows that the lite model is not full AC speeds.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                            @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                            @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                            @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                            @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                            @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                            @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                            @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                            @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                            My point is that Asus routers are well known for their performance vs other consumer grade products including linksys.

                            But why compare to that category? Linksys I've always found to be pretty bad, being good in comparison isn't a selling point.

                            Because the price point matches that category well.

                            I don't see how that is relevant. Why not compare quality in general, not "only quality compared to a bad category?" What does "price point matching" mean, especially in a market where consume and commercial overlap.

                            It is an all in one networking device with enterprise features and performance very similar to Ubiquiti.

                            Does all in one really matter?

                            It can, but generally I see that as a negative, not a positive. Harder to service, less flexible, etc.

                            I can see home users wanting only one thing to deal with - but if you're posting here - That instantly puts you out of the home user market in my mind.

                            Even then, generally home users only "want that" because they are told that that is what home users use.

                            Really? You think home users given the choice at Best Buy between buying two pieces to manage or just one, they would choose the two piece setup? Assuming everything else is equal?

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1 @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                              @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                              @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                              @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                              @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                              @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                              @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                              @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                              @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                              @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                              My point is that Asus routers are well known for their performance vs other consumer grade products including linksys.

                              But why compare to that category? Linksys I've always found to be pretty bad, being good in comparison isn't a selling point.

                              Because the price point matches that category well.

                              I don't see how that is relevant. Why not compare quality in general, not "only quality compared to a bad category?" What does "price point matching" mean, especially in a market where consume and commercial overlap.

                              It is an all in one networking device with enterprise features and performance very similar to Ubiquiti.

                              Does all in one really matter?

                              It can, but generally I see that as a negative, not a positive. Harder to service, less flexible, etc.

                              I can see home users wanting only one thing to deal with - but if you're posting here - That instantly puts you out of the home user market in my mind.

                              Even then, generally home users only "want that" because they are told that that is what home users use.

                              Really? You think home users given the choice at Best Buy between buying two pieces to manage or just one, they would choose the two piece setup? Assuming everything else is equal?

                              Depends on the retail place your in. At a MicroCenter I'd expect them to recommend the two piece setup, and BestBuy whatever is more popular at the moment.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @JaredBusch said in What router are you using at home?:

                                @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                                @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                                Asus AC1900 vs Ubiquiti AC-Lite

                                https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Wireless/Performance-Asus-AC1900-vs-Unifi-AC-Lite/td-p/1657284

                                The page tells you exactly what you would expect, they aren't comparing apples to apples in the test in the OP.

                                But the OP did not know that. Hence he posted that. Now he knows that the lite model is not full AC speeds.

                                That just shows a failure of the OP and his testing methods.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @travisdh1
                                  last edited by

                                  @travisdh1 said in What router are you using at home?:

                                  @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                                  @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                                  @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                                  @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                                  @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                                  @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                                  My point is that Asus routers are well known for their performance vs other consumer grade products including linksys.

                                  But why compare to that category? Linksys I've always found to be pretty bad, being good in comparison isn't a selling point.

                                  Because the price point matches that category well.

                                  I don't see how that is relevant. Why not compare quality in general, not "only quality compared to a bad category?" What does "price point matching" mean, especially in a market where consume and commercial overlap.

                                  It is an all in one networking device with enterprise features and performance very similar to Ubiquiti.

                                  Does all in one really matter?

                                  It can, but generally I see that as a negative, not a positive. Harder to service, less flexible, etc.

                                  I can see home users wanting only one thing to deal with - but if you're posting here - That instantly puts you out of the home user market in my mind.

                                  Even then, generally home users only "want that" because they are told that that is what home users use.

                                  Really? You think home users given the choice at Best Buy between buying two pieces to manage or just one, they would choose the two piece setup? Assuming everything else is equal?

                                  Depends on the retail place your in. At a MicroCenter I'd expect them to recommend the two piece setup, and BestBuy whatever is more popular at the moment.

                                  really? microcenter would do something against profits? That seems odd. But who knows.. maybe they actually have a different moto and aren't public, so making money it's their goal?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                                    @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                                    @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                                    @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                                    @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                                    @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                                    My point is that Asus routers are well known for their performance vs other consumer grade products including linksys.

                                    But why compare to that category? Linksys I've always found to be pretty bad, being good in comparison isn't a selling point.

                                    Because the price point matches that category well.

                                    I don't see how that is relevant. Why not compare quality in general, not "only quality compared to a bad category?" What does "price point matching" mean, especially in a market where consume and commercial overlap.

                                    It is an all in one networking device with enterprise features and performance very similar to Ubiquiti.

                                    Does all in one really matter?

                                    It can, but generally I see that as a negative, not a positive. Harder to service, less flexible, etc.

                                    I can see home users wanting only one thing to deal with - but if you're posting here - That instantly puts you out of the home user market in my mind.

                                    Even then, generally home users only "want that" because they are told that that is what home users use.

                                    Really? You think home users given the choice at Best Buy between buying two pieces to manage or just one, they would choose the two piece setup? Assuming everything else is equal?

                                    You are not thinking about this well. You are using "consumers after they've been led to believe they need X", not "what consumers would want on their own."

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                                    • travisdh1T
                                      travisdh1 @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                                      @travisdh1 said in What router are you using at home?:

                                      @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                                      @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                                      @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                                      @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                                      @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What router are you using at home?:

                                      @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                                      My point is that Asus routers are well known for their performance vs other consumer grade products including linksys.

                                      But why compare to that category? Linksys I've always found to be pretty bad, being good in comparison isn't a selling point.

                                      Because the price point matches that category well.

                                      I don't see how that is relevant. Why not compare quality in general, not "only quality compared to a bad category?" What does "price point matching" mean, especially in a market where consume and commercial overlap.

                                      It is an all in one networking device with enterprise features and performance very similar to Ubiquiti.

                                      Does all in one really matter?

                                      It can, but generally I see that as a negative, not a positive. Harder to service, less flexible, etc.

                                      I can see home users wanting only one thing to deal with - but if you're posting here - That instantly puts you out of the home user market in my mind.

                                      Even then, generally home users only "want that" because they are told that that is what home users use.

                                      Really? You think home users given the choice at Best Buy between buying two pieces to manage or just one, they would choose the two piece setup? Assuming everything else is equal?

                                      Depends on the retail place your in. At a MicroCenter I'd expect them to recommend the two piece setup, and BestBuy whatever is more popular at the moment.

                                      really? microcenter would do something against profits? That seems odd. But who knows.. maybe they actually have a different moto and aren't public, so making money it's their goal?

                                      Nope, it's the sales people who get tracked at least somewhat by what/how much customers buy things with their tags on em.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                                        @JaredBusch said in What router are you using at home?:

                                        @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                                        @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                                        Asus AC1900 vs Ubiquiti AC-Lite

                                        https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Wireless/Performance-Asus-AC1900-vs-Unifi-AC-Lite/td-p/1657284

                                        The page tells you exactly what you would expect, they aren't comparing apples to apples in the test in the OP.

                                        But the OP did not know that. Hence he posted that. Now he knows that the lite model is not full AC speeds.

                                        That just shows a failure of the OP and his testing methods.

                                        How? He tested perfectly.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                                          @JaredBusch said in What router are you using at home?:

                                          @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                                          @JaredBusch said in What router are you using at home?:

                                          @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                                          @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                                          Asus AC1900 vs Ubiquiti AC-Lite

                                          https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Wireless/Performance-Asus-AC1900-vs-Unifi-AC-Lite/td-p/1657284

                                          The page tells you exactly what you would expect, they aren't comparing apples to apples in the test in the OP.

                                          But the OP did not know that. Hence he posted that. Now he knows that the lite model is not full AC speeds.

                                          That just shows a failure of the OP and his testing methods.

                                          How? He tested perfectly.

                                          Sure he tested apples vs oranges i.e. 2 vs 3 as noted in a followup post.

                                          The test itself is fine, but he was asking why UBNT stuff was so much slower. The answer would have been obvious if he had looked up the specs to see he wasn't doing a fair comparison.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                                            @JaredBusch said in What router are you using at home?:

                                            @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                                            @JaredBusch said in What router are you using at home?:

                                            @Dashrender said in What router are you using at home?:

                                            @IRJ said in What router are you using at home?:

                                            Asus AC1900 vs Ubiquiti AC-Lite

                                            https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Wireless/Performance-Asus-AC1900-vs-Unifi-AC-Lite/td-p/1657284

                                            The page tells you exactly what you would expect, they aren't comparing apples to apples in the test in the OP.

                                            But the OP did not know that. Hence he posted that. Now he knows that the lite model is not full AC speeds.

                                            That just shows a failure of the OP and his testing methods.

                                            How? He tested perfectly.

                                            Sure he tested apples vs oranges i.e. 2 vs 3 as noted in a followup post.

                                            The test itself is fine, but he was asking why UBNT stuff was so much slower. The answer would have been obvious if he had looked up the specs to see he wasn't doing a fair comparison.

                                            This is all very true, but it is also completely not what you said or even implied in your prior posts.

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