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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      Does anyone have a yahoo.com email account I can test?

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @Dashrender check telegram

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          While there appears to be a delay at times it is working.

          Here's yahoo's ehlo reply

          https://i.imgur.com/XI7wxKz.png

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
            last edited by

            And hotmail.com

            https://i.imgur.com/1MLSTcf.png

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Looks like only some silly home user freebie email addresses likely to be an issue. Those people all have the option of good, free secure email if they need access like that, too.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                Looks like only some silly home user freebie email addresses likely to be an issue. Those people all have the option of good, free secure email if they need access like that, too.

                What's weird is that Cox requires the use of TLS to download your email through pop or IMAP.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                  Looks like only some silly home user freebie email addresses likely to be an issue. Those people all have the option of good, free secure email if they need access like that, too.

                  What's weird is that Cox requires the use of TLS to download your email through pop or IMAP.

                  That is odd for sure.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                    Looks like only some silly home user freebie email addresses likely to be an issue. Those people all have the option of good, free secure email if they need access like that, too.

                    What's weird is that Cox requires the use of TLS to download your email through pop or IMAP.

                    No wait, that's not odd. SMTP doesn't pass credentials, IMAP does. They are protecting the log in.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                      @Dashrender said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                      Looks like only some silly home user freebie email addresses likely to be an issue. Those people all have the option of good, free secure email if they need access like that, too.

                      What's weird is that Cox requires the use of TLS to download your email through pop or IMAP.

                      No wait, that's not odd. SMTP doesn't pass credentials, IMAP does. They are protecting the log in.

                      They require logon for sending too.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                        @Dashrender said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                        Looks like only some silly home user freebie email addresses likely to be an issue. Those people all have the option of good, free secure email if they need access like that, too.

                        What's weird is that Cox requires the use of TLS to download your email through pop or IMAP.

                        No wait, that's not odd. SMTP doesn't pass credentials, IMAP does. They are protecting the log in.

                        They require logon for sending too.

                        Wrong part of the connection, though. The SMTP to the other serves doesn't have the creds even if you enter them earlier.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                          @Dashrender said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                          @Dashrender said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                          Looks like only some silly home user freebie email addresses likely to be an issue. Those people all have the option of good, free secure email if they need access like that, too.

                          What's weird is that Cox requires the use of TLS to download your email through pop or IMAP.

                          No wait, that's not odd. SMTP doesn't pass credentials, IMAP does. They are protecting the log in.

                          They require logon for sending too.

                          Wrong part of the connection, though. The SMTP to the other serves doesn't have the creds even if you enter them earlier.

                          I might not understand how email from a client device (like Outlook, Thunderbird) works with regards to SMTP, not MAPI/ActiveSync.

                          My understanding is that authentication is required to keep spammers from relaying through them.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            Good news, 5 days so far, and only Cox.net has failed.

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                            • brianlittlejohnB
                              brianlittlejohn @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                              @Dashrender said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                              @Dashrender said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                              Looks like only some silly home user freebie email addresses likely to be an issue. Those people all have the option of good, free secure email if they need access like that, too.

                              What's weird is that Cox requires the use of TLS to download your email through pop or IMAP.

                              No wait, that's not odd. SMTP doesn't pass credentials, IMAP does. They are protecting the log in.

                              They require logon for sending too.

                              Wrong part of the connection, though. The SMTP to the other serves doesn't have the creds even if you enter them earlier.

                              I might not understand how email from a client device (like Outlook, Thunderbird) works with regards to SMTP, not MAPI/ActiveSync.

                              My understanding is that authentication is required to keep spammers from relaying through them.

                              They require credentials to relay outgoing messages to external domains, but incoming messages for cox.net the smtp server accepts without authentication.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                spoke to soon, just people aren't reporting issues.

                                https://i.imgur.com/Z0O4DcO.png

                                This is a lawfirm. 😞

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @brianlittlejohn
                                  last edited by

                                  @brianlittlejohn said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                                  @Dashrender said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                                  @Dashrender said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                                  @Dashrender said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                                  Looks like only some silly home user freebie email addresses likely to be an issue. Those people all have the option of good, free secure email if they need access like that, too.

                                  What's weird is that Cox requires the use of TLS to download your email through pop or IMAP.

                                  No wait, that's not odd. SMTP doesn't pass credentials, IMAP does. They are protecting the log in.

                                  They require logon for sending too.

                                  Wrong part of the connection, though. The SMTP to the other serves doesn't have the creds even if you enter them earlier.

                                  I might not understand how email from a client device (like Outlook, Thunderbird) works with regards to SMTP, not MAPI/ActiveSync.

                                  My understanding is that authentication is required to keep spammers from relaying through them.

                                  They require credentials to relay outgoing messages to external domains, but incoming messages for cox.net the smtp server accepts without authentication.

                                  Right - I understand this for normal server to server SMTP, but I'm talking about client to server SMTP.
                                  could they be, sure, and if they are, well then SMTP doesn't need to be authenticated unless the sending side is trying to have Cox act as a relay.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                    last edited by JaredBusch

                                    @Dashrender said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                                    spoke to soon, just people aren't reporting issues.

                                    But are people handling it with the recipient another way? If so, win.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                                      https://i.imgur.com/Z0O4DcO.png

                                      This is a lawfirm. 😞

                                      With a local server not behind some spam service I bet.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @JaredBusch said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                                        @Dashrender said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                                        spoke to soon, just people aren't reporting issues.

                                        But are people handling it with the recipient another way? If so, win.

                                        Well the boss just called and said - I have a problem - fix it. Sooooo, no they aren't handling it another way, at least not yet.

                                        I've sent a message to their whois listed technical contact.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by Dashrender

                                          @JaredBusch said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                                          @Dashrender said in Enabling RequireTLS on Exchange Send Connectors:

                                          https://i.imgur.com/Z0O4DcO.png

                                          This is a lawfirm. 😞

                                          With a local server not behind some spam service I bet.

                                          That's hard to say. I do know that their SMTP out IP address was GEO tagged as coming from Europe, so my spam filter used to block them, but I have to remind myself that Geo tracking IPs is pretty unreliable these days...

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            Well, I don't know what the IP was that my spam filter hated 2 years ago, but the current IP belonging to this email server claims it in my own city, belonging to Cox Communications.

                                            Well so much for getting it fixed.

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