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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @garak0410
      last edited by

      @garak0410 said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @garak0410 said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      So on a user's system when it is failing, what is an nslookup of the A and CNAMEs returning?

      What is the preferred syntax to check the A and CNAME with NSLOOKUP? Thanks....

      Just....

      nslookup aname
      nslookup CNAME

      Where aname and CNAME are the host names. There is no further syntax.

      On PC's that had no problem or had a problem, they either NSLOOKUP ANAME or CNAME to the old or new DNS server...and they all end with can't find cname: Non-existent domain (same with aname)

      Sounds like you don't have your search domains defined and you are skipping the FQDN and are trying to use short names.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
        last edited by Dashrender

        I agree with Scott, you're using short name instead of FQDN (Fully Qualified Domain Names). It's something that started back in the NT days with NetBIOS. You really should replace all \servername\sharename with \severname.domainname.com\sharename

        for your nslookup try 'nslookup olddc.domainname.com' or nslookup newdc.domainname.com

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
          last edited by Dashrender

          Would you please post the exact output from ipconfig /all from a working and non working machine

          should look like the follwing (you can change the same things I did if you want to hide your domain from us).

          U:>ipconfig /all

          Windows IP Configuration

          Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : om1290d2
          Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : domainname.net <- changed to protect
          Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
          IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
          WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
          DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domainname.net <- changed to protect

          Ethernet adapter Tripwire Tunnel Connection:

          Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
          Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
          Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Tripwire TAP Network Adapter
          Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-FF-CD-xx-xx-xx ** <- changed to protect**
          DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
          Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

          Ethernet adapter vEthernet (New Virtual Switch):

          Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
          Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Hyper-V Virtual Ethernet Adapter #2
          Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : F0-92-1C-xx-xx-xx <- changed to protect
          DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
          Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
          Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::4d7d:7ce2:b72c:eb60%9(Preferred)
          IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.1.9(Preferred)
          Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
          Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.1.254
          DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 183538204
          DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-1A-7B-00-80-F0-92-1C-DD-55-A8

          DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.1.19
          172.16.1.245
          NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

          Tunnel adapter isatap.{F24F29C3-326D-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx}: <- changed to protect

          Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
          Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
          Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #2
          Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
          DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
          Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

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          • garak0410G
            garak0410 @Dashrender
            last edited by

            This is from a PC that never lost it's naming to the FILESERVER:

            Windows IP Configuration

            Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : accounting01
            Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : domainname.local
            Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
            IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
            WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
            DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domainname.local

            Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

            Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : pinnstr.local
            Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
            Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-30-67-xx-xx-xx
            DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
            Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
            Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::d80:7b35:xx(Preferred)
            IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : xx.xx.xx.xx(Preferred)
            Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
            Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, May 21, 2014 8:00:34 AM
            Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, May 29, 2014 8:00:01 AM
            Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.xx.xx.xx (our firewall)
            DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.xx.xx.xx (old DC/DNS server)
            DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 234893415
            DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-17-8D-07-0C-00-30-67-61-63-9C

            DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.xx.xx.xx (new DC/DNS Server)
            10.xx.xx.xx (old DC/DNS server)
            Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.xx.xx.xx (old DC/DNS server)
            NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

            Tunnel adapter isatap.domainname.local:

            Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
            Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : domainname.local
            Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
            Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
            DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
            Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

            From a PC I had problems with today (and still do):

            Windows IP Configuration

            Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : estimating02
            Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : domainname.local
            Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
            IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
            WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
            DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domainname.local

            Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

            Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : domainname.local
            Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) 82566DM-2 Gigabit Network Connec
            tion
            Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1E-4F-xx-xx-xx
            DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
            Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
            Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::3156:295c:xx(Preferred)
            IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 10.xx.xx.xx(Preferred)
            Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
            Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 3:14:11 PM
            Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:55:01 AM
            Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.xx.xx.xx (firewall)
            DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.16 (old DC/DNS server)
            DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 234888783
            DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-1A-61-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx

            DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.xx.xx.xx(new DC/DNS server)
            Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.xx.xx.xx (old DC/DNS server)
            NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

            Tunnel adapter isatap.domainname.local:

            Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
            Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : domainname.local
            Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
            Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
            DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
            Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              See the search name in the working one? That is missing in the not working one I think.

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              • garak0410G
                garak0410 @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said:

                See the search name in the working one? That is missing in the not working one I think.

                I see it in both.

                Is there any clue as to why this is ONLY name resolution problems to the fileserver and nothing else?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  Can't think of anything. If every setting is the same.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by Dashrender

                    @garak0410 said:

                    Is there any clue as to why this is ONLY name resolution problems to the fileserver and nothing else?

                    Host files, LMHOST files If the other servers are answering to NetBIOS over IP calls where the new file server won't.

                    My biggest guess is the last one.. Windows 2012 server might not be resolving NetBIOS names any more...

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      Assuming you didn't install WINS on your new AD server you should remove the WINS information from all clients and from the DHCP server so it's not handing out that information.
                      This will also cause issues in some cases.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        Oh good point. Don't want old WINS mucking about.

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                        • garak0410G
                          garak0410 @Dashrender
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                          • garak0410G
                            garak0410 @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said:

                            Assuming you didn't install WINS on your new AD server you should remove the WINS information from all clients and from the DHCP server so it's not handing out that information.
                            This will also cause issues in some cases.

                            Let me take a look at this.

                            Now, I KNOW I checked this but I guess I overlooked it and I know it wouldn't just go away. There was no reverse lookup for the file server (services01 is its physical name). I just added it.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @garak0410
                              last edited by

                              @garak0410 said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              Assuming you didn't install WINS on your new AD server you should remove the WINS information from all clients and from the DHCP server so it's not handing out that information.
                              This will also cause issues in some cases.

                              Let me take a look at this.

                              Now, I KNOW I checked this but I guess I overlooked it and I know it wouldn't just go away. There was no reverse lookup for the file server (services01 is its physical name). I just added it.

                              Good to have but should not matter.

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                              • garak0410G
                                garak0410 @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @garak0410 said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                Assuming you didn't install WINS on your new AD server you should remove the WINS information from all clients and from the DHCP server so it's not handing out that information.
                                This will also cause issues in some cases.

                                Let me take a look at this.

                                Now, I KNOW I checked this but I guess I overlooked it and I know it wouldn't just go away. There was no reverse lookup for the file server (services01 is its physical name). I just added it.

                                Good to have but should not matter.

                                k...this morning has been rather quiet SO FAR. Only one user had problems.

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                                • garak0410G
                                  garak0410
                                  last edited by

                                  Thanks for the help on this. I appreciate the positive candor in the midst of gaps in my DNS knowledge...

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    What did you change that seems to have solved the issue?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      Its working now?

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                                      • garak0410G
                                        garak0410
                                        last edited by

                                        Good Morning...it seems to be stable now. Here's what I did but not sure what fixed it.

                                        The reverse lookup zone showed an UNKNOWN IP for the new DC/DNS server. Added it.
                                        Rebooted the file server (which was the only one having DNS name resolution problems).

                                        That's really it...I spent most of the time giving users workarounds.

                                        The NEW DNS server shows no replication issues at all. Looks healthy.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          How many DCs and DNS servers do you have now?

                                          Did you remove WINS from the DHCP options?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            Glad to hear that things are working.

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