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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by DustinB3403

      Yep, exactly. The name spaces and the categories are for similar things, to get more detailed the more you search.

      Using just categories will really leave you wanting though.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
        last edited by DustinB3403

        So what you'd likely want to do is make names spaces for the things you support.

        Using Exchange as a name spaces will then allow you to sort everything related to exchange. And under that you'd have Andy's flap jack house as a category.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said in Organizing Documentation with MediaWiki:

          Using Exchange as a name spaces will then allow you to sort everything related to exchange. And understand you'd have Andy's flap jack house

          As an MSP, that doesn't work, though, because we aren't producing general documentation for Exchange, but for a customer's implementation of it. So seeing all customer's Exchange stuff in the same name space would be essentially useless and nearly nothing would apply in the same situation. But what belongs to a customer would always be that customer. So a customer name space would likely make sense.

          Namespaces are like folders, the group things together in "hard" ways.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
            last edited by DustinB3403

            @scottalanmiller said in Organizing Documentation with MediaWiki:

            @DustinB3403 said in Organizing Documentation with MediaWiki:

            Using Exchange as a name spaces will then allow you to sort everything related to exchange. And understand you'd have Andy's flap jack house

            As an MSP, that doesn't work, though, because we aren't producing general documentation for Exchange, but for a customer's implementation of it. So seeing all customer's Exchange stuff in the same name space would be essentially useless and nearly nothing would apply in the same situation. But what belongs to a customer would always be that customer. So a customer name space would likely make sense.

            Namespaces are like folders, the group things together in "hard" ways.

            Well ignore the exchange example, using your customer name would work well.

            But do you not see the value in sorting the content based on the implemented solution as well?

            IE Andy's flap jack house as a main names space and then exchange for Andy's flap jack house...

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in Organizing Documentation with MediaWiki:

              But do you not see the value in sorting the content based on the implemented solution as well?

              That's what the category is for.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Organizing Documentation with MediaWiki:

                @DustinB3403 said in Organizing Documentation with MediaWiki:

                But do you not see the value in sorting the content based on the implemented solution as well?

                That's what the category is for.

                They can be, but using namespaces means you have to add custom entries (something I'm sure you're not afraid to do) but still extra work.

                Categories are much easier to make, and do allow you to focus in on a specific subject matter. Namespaces are strictly for Andy's Flap Jacks.

                So while this might be a worthwhile effort, I think it would be a lot to maintain...

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
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                  Here "brianna.laugher at gmail" has a good description of the uses of each. 3rd post down.

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                  • art_of_shredA
                    art_of_shred Banned
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                    ...And we've already abandoned MediaWiki for DokuWiki for page security reasons. 😛

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      Here's my $5-6/month/user account with OneNote online

                      https://i.imgur.com/3BJnLqt.png

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @Dashrender
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                        https://i.imgur.com/9OaVAmB.png

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
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                          https://i.imgur.com/Gq1cJCV.png

                          I appear to have full access OneNote from my browser in my $5-6/m/u account.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
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                            Here's the free OneNote on my android with my Business account added showing both of the OneNote things in the list.
                            0_1479431337748_Screenshot_20161117-190613.png

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Yeah, but we can't access that. It's $20 for us. That's just the price, can't get around it.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Organizing Documentation with MediaWiki:

                                Yeah, but we can't access that. It's $20 for us. That's just the price, can't get around it.

                                If you're really planning on dropping all the way to the $4/u/m exchange only plan, then you can probably move to the $5/month plan (you have less than 250 users, right? and get what I have today.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said in Organizing Documentation with MediaWiki:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Organizing Documentation with MediaWiki:

                                  Yeah, but we can't access that. It's $20 for us. That's just the price, can't get around it.

                                  If you're really planning on dropping all the way to the $4/u/m exchange only plan, then you can probably move to the $5/month plan (you have less than 250 users, right? and get what I have today.

                                  MSP, doesn't work that way. We need our E3 plans. Seriously, we don't have any option for the $5 stuff.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    If we were a normal company that could use the $5 plans, we'd already be on them and using that. But even when we had OneNote, we were not too impressed with it. It was just "good enough." Now we are looking for something actually good.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Organizing Documentation with MediaWiki:

                                      @Dashrender said in Organizing Documentation with MediaWiki:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Organizing Documentation with MediaWiki:

                                      Yeah, but we can't access that. It's $20 for us. That's just the price, can't get around it.

                                      If you're really planning on dropping all the way to the $4/u/m exchange only plan, then you can probably move to the $5/month plan (you have less than 250 users, right? and get what I have today.

                                      MSP, doesn't work that way. We need our E3 plans. Seriously, we don't have any option for the $5 stuff.

                                      then you're paying $20 already - so what difference does it make?

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Organizing Documentation with MediaWiki:

                                        If we were a normal company that could use the $5 plans, we'd already be on them and using that. But even when we had OneNote, we were not too impressed with it. It was just "good enough." Now we are looking for something actually good.

                                        See, that's a whole different story then. But pricing was the original reason given for moving away from it.. not the desire to find a better solution.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said in Organizing Documentation with MediaWiki:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Organizing Documentation with MediaWiki:

                                          If we were a normal company that could use the $5 plans, we'd already be on them and using that. But even when we had OneNote, we were not too impressed with it. It was just "good enough." Now we are looking for something actually good.

                                          See, that's a whole different story then. But pricing was the original reason given for moving away from it.. not the desire to find a better solution.

                                          Right, but as I explained we can't get the $5 pricing.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said in Organizing Documentation with MediaWiki:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Organizing Documentation with MediaWiki:

                                            @Dashrender said in Organizing Documentation with MediaWiki:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Organizing Documentation with MediaWiki:

                                            Yeah, but we can't access that. It's $20 for us. That's just the price, can't get around it.

                                            If you're really planning on dropping all the way to the $4/u/m exchange only plan, then you can probably move to the $5/month plan (you have less than 250 users, right? and get what I have today.

                                            MSP, doesn't work that way. We need our E3 plans. Seriously, we don't have any option for the $5 stuff.

                                            then you're paying $20 already - so what difference does it make?

                                            That we can't get the $5 plan. So we can't have OneNote and SharePoint without paying the $16 premium per user. We are going in circles. I'm back to explaining the original price post.

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