Zentyal 5.0 release in November



  • I know there was a recent post about Zentyal and I made the comment that it appears to be a dead project. I just saw this on another forum post. Possibly making a comeback???

    http://www.zentyal.org/2016/10/zentyal-5-0-roadmap-published/



  • If Zentyal is dead, I'm screwed. They are like the only competitor for Windows Server. Maybe. I've barely got my Zentyal fully functional, I hope nothing is dying!



  • @guyinpv said in Zentyal 5.0 release in November:

    If Zentyal is dead, I'm screwed. They are like the only competitor for Windows Server. Maybe. I've barely got my Zentyal fully functional, I hope nothing is dying!

    Only meant it's dead because there is very little activity on their site. Zentyal employees don't seem to be involved in the forums anymore. Most of the community jumped ship about a year and half ago because Zentyal removed key features from the developer version and basically put all their focus on the paid versions. At that point everyone seemed to have gone to Nethserver.org



  • @guyinpv - All the same functionality can be achieved by setting up a Samba AD server. Zentyal just provides a nice web interface to configure everything. However, if you look at the forum posting over the last year the product has been loaded with bugs.



  • Due to the issues found recently in the OpenChange (that offers native synchronization with MS Outlook clients via MAPI protocol), this functionality has been dropped until the issues have been fixed and the module has been stabilized. For the time being, Zentyal can be deployed as a IMAP-POP3 mail server.

    This was really the only appealing feature and now it's gone.



  • @syko24 said in Zentyal 5.0 release in November:

    I know there was a recent post about Zentyal and I made the comment that it appears to be a dead project. I just saw this on another forum post. Possibly making a comeback???

    http://www.zentyal.org/2016/10/zentyal-5-0-roadmap-published/

    I'd seen the beta being readied recently but decided to test with the stable because the beta was like "just out" as beta when I did. Only a few weeks till the new major release though, that's great.



  • @guyinpv said in Zentyal 5.0 release in November:

    If Zentyal is dead, I'm screwed. They are like the only competitor for Windows Server. Maybe. I've barely got my Zentyal fully functional, I hope nothing is dying!

    It's not at all alone. There are at least three projects that are essentially identical to Zentyal in Windows Server / AD functionality comparing to SBS. And the functionality of Zentyal is there in every major Linux distro, both enterprise and hobby, just not with as much pretty interface and packaging. But you have no shortage of Windows replacements. There the three like Zentyal, then RHEL/CentOS, openSuse, Ubuntu, Debian, Arch, etc.



  • @syko24 said in Zentyal 5.0 release in November:

    @guyinpv said in Zentyal 5.0 release in November:

    If Zentyal is dead, I'm screwed. They are like the only competitor for Windows Server. Maybe. I've barely got my Zentyal fully functional, I hope nothing is dying!

    Only meant it's dead because there is very little activity on their site. Zentyal employees don't seem to be involved in the forums anymore. Most of the community jumped ship about a year and half ago because Zentyal removed key features from the developer version and basically put all their focus on the paid versions. At that point everyone seemed to have gone to Nethserver.org

    That's the one that looked most interesting to me to continue to research. Seems dedicated to remaining open.



  • @syko24 said in Zentyal 5.0 release in November:

    @guyinpv - All the same functionality can be achieved by setting up a Samba AD server. Zentyal just provides a nice web interface to configure everything. However, if you look at the forum posting over the last year the product has been loaded with bugs.

    AD is the one thing I DON'T want at this point!

    I mainly have Zentyal set up for network share, DHCP, some DNS, hosting, random things. In fact, I now have internal hosting on another VM, cloud sharing on another VM. So frankly my Zentyal seems to be used for just a file share at this point, lol.
    I was using it for DHCP until one fine Sunday the DHCP service just turns itself off for no reason, causing a panic in the office (I'm sick at home) and they have to hire a local tech who just turns on DHCP on the router as a fix. I never bothered to switch DHCP back to Zentyal after that. I don't need core services just switching off for no dang reason!

    I guess you're right, don't even need Zentyal at this point, lol. But I refuse to not have some kind of GUI/interface to manage my Linux services. I have WAY too much to do in my day to be farting around with command lines when I have work to get done.



  • @guyinpv said in Zentyal 5.0 release in November:

    @syko24 said in Zentyal 5.0 release in November:

    @guyinpv - All the same functionality can be achieved by setting up a Samba AD server. Zentyal just provides a nice web interface to configure everything. However, if you look at the forum posting over the last year the product has been loaded with bugs.

    AD is the one thing I DON'T want at this point!

    That's the core selling feature of Zentyal and all of its competitors, and the only thing that people normally mean when they say that they want a Windows server (other than SMB protocol which everything has.)



  • @guyinpv said in Zentyal 5.0 release in November:

    I mainly have Zentyal set up for network share, DHCP, some DNS, hosting, random things. In fact, I now have internal hosting on another VM, cloud sharing on another VM. So frankly my Zentyal seems to be used for just a file share at this point, lol.

    Every Linux has that stuff, and most of them have the pretty interfaces for it. It's the lack of AD Interface that makes Zentyal different in that it has it and they require you to do it from the command line.



  • @guyinpv said in Zentyal 5.0 release in November:

    I guess you're right, don't even need Zentyal at this point, lol. But I refuse to not have some kind of GUI/interface to manage my Linux services. I have WAY too much to do in my day to be farting around with command lines when I have work to get done.

    Based on the same needs to save time, I refuse to have the GUI 😉 Same reason I don't have a GUI on Windows.

    But what Linux OS have you found that lacks a GUI? They "all" offer them, it's just that using it is considered bad practice normally. But that's the same as Windows.



  • @guyinpv - Really a Synology or ReadyNAS would accomplish everything for you. Again, nothing more than Linux with a nice GUI to manage.



  • @scottalanmiller said in Zentyal 5.0 release in November:

    That's the core selling feature of Zentyal and all of its competitors, and the only thing that people normally mean when they say that they want a Windows server (other than SMB protocol which everything has.)

    That and the Exchange (OpenChange) feature that is apparently getting scrapped for now.



  • @scottalanmiller said in Zentyal 5.0 release in November:

    @guyinpv said in Zentyal 5.0 release in November:

    I guess you're right, don't even need Zentyal at this point, lol. But I refuse to not have some kind of GUI/interface to manage my Linux services. I have WAY too much to do in my day to be farting around with command lines when I have work to get done.

    Based on the same needs to save time, I refuse to have the GUI 😉 Same reason I don't have a GUI on Windows.

    You're on crack, and many other things. Never speak to me again.



  • @guyinpv said in Zentyal 5.0 release in November:

    @scottalanmiller said in Zentyal 5.0 release in November:

    @guyinpv said in Zentyal 5.0 release in November:

    I guess you're right, don't even need Zentyal at this point, lol. But I refuse to not have some kind of GUI/interface to manage my Linux services. I have WAY too much to do in my day to be farting around with command lines when I have work to get done.

    Based on the same needs to save time, I refuse to have the GUI 😉 Same reason I don't have a GUI on Windows.

    You're on crack, and many other things. Never speak to me again.

    Everything is so fast. I can often get tasks done before other team members get a GUI up and running to look for what they need. Often I can do my CLI task without even logging in, just issue the command remotely.


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