Server will not shut down
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@dafyre can you follow up with all of the details
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@scottalanmiller said in Server will not shut down:
@dafyre said in Server will not shut down:
Got an oddball problem here... We are working on setting up several VM clones for a project here. Each VM will be connected to the same shared storage via iSCSI.
Under the hood, right? Via the datastore, not iSCSI connecting to the OS inside of the VM, right?
Here is the post where I got the idea of what was wrong, but was confirming details as to what the issue was @Dashrender
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@scottalanmiller said in Server will not shut down:
I've never tried Windows with iSCSI setup and cloned. I'm wondering if cloning iSCSI is part of the issue.
And here is where I suggested the cloning issues two posts before @Dashrender
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@dafyre said in Server will not shut down:
So now on the cloned systems, they boot up, and run painfully slow. And then when we tell them to reboot, they actually will sit there and never reboot, but they'll be stuck at "Restarting", like it's about to reboot... but it never does.
Anybody have any ideas that I can check?
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@scottalanmiller said in Server will not shut down:
@scottalanmiller said in Server will not shut down:
I've never tried Windows with iSCSI setup and cloned. I'm wondering if cloning iSCSI is part of the issue.
And here is where I suggested the cloning issues two posts before @Dashrender
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@scottalanmiller said in Server will not shut down:
@MattSpeller said in Server will not shut down:
Double entendre much?
I try for the coveted triple but I'll always take a solid double.
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@MattSpeller said in Server will not shut down:
@scottalanmiller said in Server will not shut down:
@MattSpeller said in Server will not shut down:
Double entendre much?
I try for the coveted triple but I'll always take a solid double.
Two in a row, sir. I tip my hat.
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@scottalanmiller said in Server will not shut down:
@dafyre can you follow up with all of the details
Well... You asked for it... takes deep breath
TL;DR: Don't Add iSCSI Devices in the iSCSI initiator in Windows before sysprepping.
So we did finally figure out what happened. Apparently, when you sysprep a system, it deletes device drivers, and it does something to screw up the iSCSI initiator to the point that it simply won't work.
Workaround is to set up the VM the way you want it, and then sysprep it.... then add iSCSI settings after the machine has been cloned successfully.
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@dafyre said in Server will not shut down:
Workaround is to set up the VM the way you want it, and then sysprep it.... then add iSCSI settings after the machine has been cloned successfully.
Workaround, yes, industry best practice - yeah not so much.
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@Dashrender said in Server will not shut down:
@dafyre said in Server will not shut down:
Workaround is to set up the VM the way you want it, and then sysprep it.... then add iSCSI settings after the machine has been cloned successfully.
Workaround, yes, industry best practice - yeah not so much.
Preaching to the choir, man. VMware is my boss's baby. I go in and start making changes, and I'd find myself neck deep in... well, you get the idea.
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@dafyre said in Server will not shut down:
@Dashrender said in Server will not shut down:
@dafyre said in Server will not shut down:
Workaround is to set up the VM the way you want it, and then sysprep it.... then add iSCSI settings after the machine has been cloned successfully.
Workaround, yes, industry best practice - yeah not so much.
Preaching to the choir, man. VMware is my boss's baby. I go in and start making changes, and I'd find myself neck deep in... well, you get the idea.
She needs to trust her baby more. The issue here, kinda, is that there was a distrust for VMware and the best practice approach and instead trust was put on Microsoft and the anti-pattern approach.
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@scottalanmiller said in Server will not shut down:
@dafyre said in Server will not shut down:
@Dashrender said in Server will not shut down:
@dafyre said in Server will not shut down:
Workaround is to set up the VM the way you want it, and then sysprep it.... then add iSCSI settings after the machine has been cloned successfully.
Workaround, yes, industry best practice - yeah not so much.
Preaching to the choir, man. VMware is my boss's baby. I go in and start making changes, and I'd find myself neck deep in... well, you get the idea.
She needs to trust her baby more. The issue here, kinda, is that there was a distrust for VMware and the best practice approach and instead trust was put on Microsoft and the anti-pattern approach.
I'm guessing it's not a lack of trust toward VMware but instead an inappropriate trusted windows.
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@scottalanmiller said in Server will not shut down:
@dafyre said in Server will not shut down:
@Dashrender said in Server will not shut down:
@dafyre said in Server will not shut down:
Workaround is to set up the VM the way you want it, and then sysprep it.... then add iSCSI settings after the machine has been cloned successfully.
Workaround, yes, industry best practice - yeah not so much.
Preaching to the choir, man. VMware is my boss's baby. I go in and start making changes, and I'd find myself neck deep in... well, you get the idea.
She needs to trust her baby more. The issue here, kinda, is that there was a distrust for VMware and the best practice approach and instead trust was put on Microsoft and the anti-pattern approach.
For him, it's not so much a distrust of VMware, as much as it is a "I've never done it this way before."
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@Dashrender said in Server will not shut down:
@scottalanmiller said in Server will not shut down:
@dafyre said in Server will not shut down:
@Dashrender said in Server will not shut down:
@dafyre said in Server will not shut down:
Workaround is to set up the VM the way you want it, and then sysprep it.... then add iSCSI settings after the machine has been cloned successfully.
Workaround, yes, industry best practice - yeah not so much.
Preaching to the choir, man. VMware is my boss's baby. I go in and start making changes, and I'd find myself neck deep in... well, you get the idea.
She needs to trust her baby more. The issue here, kinda, is that there was a distrust for VMware and the best practice approach and instead trust was put on Microsoft and the anti-pattern approach.
I'm guessing it's not a lack of trust toward VMware but instead an inappropriate trusted windows.
Strange that they run VMware and not Hyper-V in either case.
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@scottalanmiller said in Server will not shut down:
@Dashrender said in Server will not shut down:
@scottalanmiller said in Server will not shut down:
@dafyre said in Server will not shut down:
@Dashrender said in Server will not shut down:
@dafyre said in Server will not shut down:
Workaround is to set up the VM the way you want it, and then sysprep it.... then add iSCSI settings after the machine has been cloned successfully.
Workaround, yes, industry best practice - yeah not so much.
Preaching to the choir, man. VMware is my boss's baby. I go in and start making changes, and I'd find myself neck deep in... well, you get the idea.
She needs to trust her baby more. The issue here, kinda, is that there was a distrust for VMware and the best practice approach and instead trust was put on Microsoft and the anti-pattern approach.
I'm guessing it's not a lack of trust toward VMware but instead an inappropriate trusted windows.
Strange that they run VMware and not Hyper-V in either case.
State contract... I suspect that gears have been greased.
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@dafyre said in Server will not shut down:
@scottalanmiller said in Server will not shut down:
@Dashrender said in Server will not shut down:
@scottalanmiller said in Server will not shut down:
@dafyre said in Server will not shut down:
@Dashrender said in Server will not shut down:
@dafyre said in Server will not shut down:
Workaround is to set up the VM the way you want it, and then sysprep it.... then add iSCSI settings after the machine has been cloned successfully.
Workaround, yes, industry best practice - yeah not so much.
Preaching to the choir, man. VMware is my boss's baby. I go in and start making changes, and I'd find myself neck deep in... well, you get the idea.
She needs to trust her baby more. The issue here, kinda, is that there was a distrust for VMware and the best practice approach and instead trust was put on Microsoft and the anti-pattern approach.
I'm guessing it's not a lack of trust toward VMware but instead an inappropriate trusted windows.
Strange that they run VMware and not Hyper-V in either case.
State contract... I suspect that gears have been greased.
I understand Scott comment about trusting hyper-v vs. VMware but the reality of that situation bro I was down at the hyper-v is so young in comparison to VMware
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The irony here is that we actually do have a Hyper-V install. We're using that to build out our VDI platform. If they like the way it works, I suspect we'll be moving more and more stuff over to Hyper-V.
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@dafyre said in Server will not shut down:
@scottalanmiller said in Server will not shut down:
@Dashrender said in Server will not shut down:
@scottalanmiller said in Server will not shut down:
@dafyre said in Server will not shut down:
@Dashrender said in Server will not shut down:
@dafyre said in Server will not shut down:
Workaround is to set up the VM the way you want it, and then sysprep it.... then add iSCSI settings after the machine has been cloned successfully.
Workaround, yes, industry best practice - yeah not so much.
Preaching to the choir, man. VMware is my boss's baby. I go in and start making changes, and I'd find myself neck deep in... well, you get the idea.
She needs to trust her baby more. The issue here, kinda, is that there was a distrust for VMware and the best practice approach and instead trust was put on Microsoft and the anti-pattern approach.
I'm guessing it's not a lack of trust toward VMware but instead an inappropriate trusted windows.
Strange that they run VMware and not Hyper-V in either case.
State contract... I suspect that gears have been greased.
But they are using Microsoft products too, would be odd for Hyper-V to not be allowed given that, even with the state contract, that Hyper-V and its vendors are already acquired.
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@Dashrender said in Server will not shut down:
I understand Scott comment about trusting hyper-v vs. VMware but the reality of that situation bro I was down at the hyper-v is so young in comparison to VMware
I'm not recommending it here, only stating that it is a weird emotional thing for the manager to dis VMware for Microsoft in a place where it is a pretty obvious technical problem but not do it where it would make sense.
