I can't even
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@travisdh1 said in I can't even:
@wirestyle22 said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller I kind of don't blame companies for going Lenovo. State contracts hold the biggest money for MSP's for the most part. in NJ (my state) each of the companies licensed to sell to the state can only have a maximum of 17 resellers. Lenovo is sometimes you're only option.
The government essentially forces you to partner with a shittier company if you want to do business with them.
So individual states are ignoring the Department of Defense purge of Lenovo from their network, in addition to knowingly loosing control of their network: https://travisdh1.net/lenovo. Wish this stuff would be a surprise, but it's really not at this point.
If I ever seriously detailed the insane existential crisis our country and by extension we the people have caused in me, you guys would be very concerned for me
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@wirestyle22 said in I can't even:
@travisdh1 said in I can't even:
@wirestyle22 said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller I kind of don't blame companies for going Lenovo. State contracts hold the biggest money for MSP's for the most part. in NJ (my state) each of the companies licensed to sell to the state can only have a maximum of 17 resellers. Lenovo is sometimes you're only option.
The government essentially forces you to partner with a shittier company if you want to do business with them.
So individual states are ignoring the Department of Defense purge of Lenovo from their network, in addition to knowingly loosing control of their network: https://travisdh1.net/lenovo. Wish this stuff would be a surprise, but it's really not at this point.
If I ever seriously detailed the insane existential crisis our country and by extension we the people have caused in me, you guys would be very concerned for me
You're back again. We're already concerned for you.
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@dafyre said in I can't even:
@wirestyle22 said in I can't even:
@travisdh1 said in I can't even:
@wirestyle22 said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller I kind of don't blame companies for going Lenovo. State contracts hold the biggest money for MSP's for the most part. in NJ (my state) each of the companies licensed to sell to the state can only have a maximum of 17 resellers. Lenovo is sometimes you're only option.
The government essentially forces you to partner with a shittier company if you want to do business with them.
So individual states are ignoring the Department of Defense purge of Lenovo from their network, in addition to knowingly loosing control of their network: https://travisdh1.net/lenovo. Wish this stuff would be a surprise, but it's really not at this point.
If I ever seriously detailed the insane existential crisis our country and by extension we the people have caused in me, you guys would be very concerned for me
You're back again. We're already concerned for you.
Only physically. I uploaded my true consciousness into AWS
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@wirestyle22 Just like this cat
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Um... I get what he is saying, but this is just nuts.
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@dustinb3403 Is he saying he uses a cable toner to identify every single cable in his network?
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@wirestyle22 said in I can't even:
@dustinb3403 Is he saying he uses a cable toner to identify every single cable in his network?
Yes. But he is also saying he doesn't have any patch panels in his network at all. He runs from the office to the switch directly.
Nothing in between.
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@dustinb3403 said in I can't even:
@wirestyle22 said in I can't even:
@dustinb3403 Is he saying he uses a cable toner to identify every single cable in his network?
Yes. But he is also saying he doesn't have any patch panels in his network at all. He runs from the office to the switch directly.
Nothing in between.
Yeah, that is insane. Not only do I label I also color code the cables. If I ever get to the point where I can't trust my own labels just take me out behind the chemical shed and shoot me
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Which, while it has the merit of saving the cost of the patch panel and patch cords, is just nuts in it's self. As most of the time the damage occurs to the cable at either the wall jack (office side) or in the network closet.
Which means he would be forced to put new ends on the cables each time a cord is damaged. Rather than just replacing the whip.
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@dustinb3403 said in I can't even:
Which, while it has the merit of saving the cost of the patch panel and patch cords, is just nuts in it's self. As most of the time the damage occurs to the cable at either the wall jack (office side) or in the network closet.
Which means he would be forced to put new ends on the cables each time a cord is damaged. Rather than just replacing the whip.
Yeah but even just organization wise it's stupid.
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Yeah that too. Has presumably he is labeling each cord (rather than toning each cable every time).
If he punched down the cables to a patch panel, he would only have to label them once on each end, and maybe tone them if something isn't kosher.
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Does he use wall jacks? Or just run them straight out of the wall to the device... same concept.
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@brianlittlejohn said in I can't even:
Does he use wall jacks? Or just run them straight out of the wall to the device... same concept.
Agreed
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Besides organization, the benefit of going to a patch panel is to switch from solid to stranded cabling where the cables are more likely to be bent and move around more.
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@brianlittlejohn said in I can't even:
Does he use wall jacks? Or just run them straight out of the wall to the device... same concept.
Yeah - I'd like to agree, but I don't. At least around here, it's much more likely that PCs are moved than cabling in the closet... but that's just my own personal experience.
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@brianlittlejohn said in I can't even:
Besides organization, the benefit of going to a patch panel is to switch from solid to stranded cabling where the cables are more likely to be bent and move around more.
Eh? Are you saying you can't/don't use stranded in patch cables, but do from the patch panel to the wall plate?
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@dashrender said in I can't even:
@brianlittlejohn said in I can't even:
Besides organization, the benefit of going to a patch panel is to switch from solid to stranded cabling where the cables are more likely to be bent and move around more.
Eh? Are you saying you can't/don't use stranded in patch cables, but do from the patch panel to the wall plate?
That's a weird use of stranded. Stranded is a type of cable, not something you do.
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@dashrender said in I can't even:
@brianlittlejohn said in I can't even:
Besides organization, the benefit of going to a patch panel is to switch from solid to stranded cabling where the cables are more likely to be bent and move around more.
Eh? Are you saying you can't/don't use stranded in patch cables, but do from the patch panel to the wall plate?
Other way 'round.... solid to the patch panel, stranded in the patch cables to the switch.
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@rojoloco said in I can't even:
@dashrender said in I can't even:
@brianlittlejohn said in I can't even:
Besides organization, the benefit of going to a patch panel is to switch from solid to stranded cabling where the cables are more likely to be bent and move around more.
Eh? Are you saying you can't/don't use stranded in patch cables, but do from the patch panel to the wall plate?
Other way 'round.... solid to the patch panel, stranded in the patch cables to the switch.
OK that makes a bit more sense.. but still, a lot of effort.
I think it really depends - the creator of the original post on SW is crazy in their stated desire to tone every time he checks a cable - they why bother labeling at all? you either trust your label (on a cable or on a patch panel) or you don't.
