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    • travisdh1T
      travisdh1 @BRRABill
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      @BRRABill said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

      @Dashrender said

      I don't know enough about Linux and partitions, can EXT3 support 14 TB?

      I really wanted to ask this at MangoCon 2016 after the @travisdh1 presentation on LVM. How XS "messes" it up so much, or makes it so different from regular Linux.

      Mostly because it does things for you, like logical volume creation and the file system. Them sticking with ext3 for so long has really started to hurt the platform, I think that's where the 2TB limits come in.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said i

        It doesn't. But we arent talking about LVM here.

        Right but every discussion involving LVM and EXT and XS always seems to include the phrase "because it's XS"...

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill @travisdh1
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          @travisdh1 said

          Mostly because it does things for you, like logical volume creation and the file system. Them sticking with ext3 for so long has really started to hurt the platform, I think that's where the 2TB limits come in.

          See? You could have talked more about this.

          Stupid fire alarm. 🙂

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @travisdh1
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            @travisdh1 said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

            @BRRABill said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

            @Dashrender said

            I don't know enough about Linux and partitions, can EXT3 support 14 TB?

            I really wanted to ask this at MangoCon 2016 after the @travisdh1 presentation on LVM. How XS "messes" it up so much, or makes it so different from regular Linux.

            Mostly because it does things for you, like logical volume creation and the file system. Them sticking with ext3 for so long has really started to hurt the platform, I think that's where the 2TB limits come in.

            But scott found that he was mistaken on the 2 TB limit.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
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              Ok so install is going to USB, without selecting the array as "local" storage.

              Even though the installer offers it as a choice.

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              • travisdh1T
                travisdh1 @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

                @scottalanmiller said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

                @DustinB3403 said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

                Ok so here is what I'm going to try.

                Install XS to the USB, and not select the presented array for the local storage.

                From this, I'll try to add the array to xs as a local repo, using GPT.

                Okay, so the same kind of procedure you would do if this was ESXi, for example.

                Actually, for the last 30 mins, other than skipping picking an SR during install, this is what he's been doing. The assumption would be that XS would automount the 14 TB drive as an SR, but for whatever reason it's not.

                We know from Dustin's posts that XS is creating a sba3 for the remaining space that XS itself doesn't use. That space is created as EXT3. I don't know enough about Linux and partitions, can EXT3 support 14 TB?

                Nope. Gotta create multiple 2TB volume groups and add each of those perhaps?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                  @travisdh1 said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

                  @BRRABill said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

                  @Dashrender said

                  I don't know enough about Linux and partitions, can EXT3 support 14 TB?

                  I really wanted to ask this at MangoCon 2016 after the @travisdh1 presentation on LVM. How XS "messes" it up so much, or makes it so different from regular Linux.

                  Mostly because it does things for you, like logical volume creation and the file system. Them sticking with ext3 for so long has really started to hurt the platform, I think that's where the 2TB limits come in.

                  It is. Files on EXT3 are limited to 2TB. The full filesystem is limited to 32TB.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

                    @travisdh1 said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

                    @BRRABill said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

                    @Dashrender said

                    I don't know enough about Linux and partitions, can EXT3 support 14 TB?

                    I really wanted to ask this at MangoCon 2016 after the @travisdh1 presentation on LVM. How XS "messes" it up so much, or makes it so different from regular Linux.

                    Mostly because it does things for you, like logical volume creation and the file system. Them sticking with ext3 for so long has really started to hurt the platform, I think that's where the 2TB limits come in.

                    It is. Files on EXT3 are limited to 2TB. The full filesystem is limited to 32TB.

                    So if it's limited to 32TB, how do I add this array, it's half that size.. . .?

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill
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                      And here comes another XS/LVM/EXT discussion. 🙂

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                      • travisdh1T
                        travisdh1 @travisdh1
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                        @travisdh1 said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

                        @Dashrender said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

                        @scottalanmiller said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

                        @DustinB3403 said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

                        Ok so here is what I'm going to try.

                        Install XS to the USB, and not select the presented array for the local storage.

                        From this, I'll try to add the array to xs as a local repo, using GPT.

                        Okay, so the same kind of procedure you would do if this was ESXi, for example.

                        Actually, for the last 30 mins, other than skipping picking an SR during install, this is what he's been doing. The assumption would be that XS would automount the 14 TB drive as an SR, but for whatever reason it's not.

                        We know from Dustin's posts that XS is creating a sba3 for the remaining space that XS itself doesn't use. That space is created as EXT3. I don't know enough about Linux and partitions, can EXT3 support 14 TB?

                        Nope. Gotta create multiple 2TB volume groups and add each of those perhaps?

                        I'm making no sense, nope, I've got a 6TB ext3 volume on my desk right now....

                        Did we ever see the output of?

                        vgdisplay
                        

                        and

                        lvdisplay
                        
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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @travisdh1
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                          @travisdh1 not relevant at the moment (performing a clean install)

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
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                            https://support.citrix.com/article/CTX121896

                            does this article assume the local disk to already have a partition on it?

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                            • momurdaM
                              momurda
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                              My local SRs on 6.5 are over 2TB
                              lvm not ext though.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @momurda
                                last edited by

                                @momurda said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

                                My local SRs on 6.5 are over 2TB
                                lvm not ext though.

                                How did you add that RS? during install or after install?

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                                • momurdaM
                                  momurda
                                  last edited by

                                  Was already here when i started 🙂
                                  My guess is after though. I would be able to say for sure if there was any documentation for our XS infrastructure when i started. There wasnt.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @momurda
                                    last edited by

                                    @momurda said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

                                    My local SRs on 6.5 are over 2TB
                                    lvm not ext though.

                                    Yeah, that should bypass it.

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                                    • stacksofplatesS
                                      stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

                                      @Dashrender said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

                                      We know from Dustin's posts that XS is creating a sba3 for the remaining space that XS itself doesn't use. That space is created as EXT3. I don't know enough about Linux and partitions, can EXT3 support 14 TB?

                                      Yes, that's small for a filesystem.

                                      Not for ext3. Max supported size is 16 GB.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                        @stacksofplates said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

                                        @Dashrender said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

                                        We know from Dustin's posts that XS is creating a sba3 for the remaining space that XS itself doesn't use. That space is created as EXT3. I don't know enough about Linux and partitions, can EXT3 support 14 TB?

                                        Yes, that's small for a filesystem.

                                        Not for ext3. Max supported size is 16 GB.

                                        Well on 32bit systems, yeah. But we're not on those. 32TB on 64bit.

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                                        • travisdh1T
                                          travisdh1 @DustinB3403
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                                          @DustinB3403 said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

                                          @travisdh1 not relevant at the moment (performing a clean install)

                                          We are still talking about the system drive, right? At least a VG will come into play as you can't just use an entire PV in that case.

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

                                            @stacksofplates said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

                                            @Dashrender said in How do I mount this as a SR in XenServer 6.5:

                                            We know from Dustin's posts that XS is creating a sba3 for the remaining space that XS itself doesn't use. That space is created as EXT3. I don't know enough about Linux and partitions, can EXT3 support 14 TB?

                                            Yes, that's small for a filesystem.

                                            Not for ext3. Max supported size is 16 GB.

                                            Well on 32bit systems, yeah. But we're not on those. 32TB on 64bit.

                                            No that's total. https://access.redhat.com/solutions/1532

                                            Even on 7 which is 64 bit only.

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