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    We are shutting down some of our operations in Ohio. Some of the employees in the office will stay until they retire. We will be removing all servers. My current plan is to setup an Cisco ASA running on the 10mb DSL we will be getting (we are ditching the leased fiber) and run IP helper on that to point to one of the DHCP servers (over the VPN) long lease time, give out AD DNS first as normal and Google DNS secondary (not something we usually do but this setup has more chance of failure.)

    Any thoughts?



  • Why pay the Cisco tax? Use and ERL instead. Or an ER-X



  • @Dashrender said in Small office:

    Why pay the Cisco tax? Use and ERL instead. Or an ER-X

    Big company, probably have a Cisco mandate due to all the existing Cisco gear everywhere else. Fortune 500 and all that.


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    @Dashrender said in Small office:

    Why pay the Cisco tax? Use and ERL instead. Or an ER-X

    We standardize on Cisco and have plenty of hot spares for home workers.



  • I knew you worked for a huge company, and figured that would be the response, but I figured it was worth mentioning.

    But, if you already have the hardware, then you're really not spending anything,



  • Is it really that much cheaper for DSL? Since the fiber is already built out, won't they let you drop the speed/rate? Normally they don't like to decrease their minimum monthly spend, but if you're going to leave them entirely, they might make an exception.


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    @Mike-Davis said in Small office:

    Is it really that much cheaper for DSL? Since the fiber is already built out, won't they let you drop the speed/rate? Normally they don't like to decrease their minimum monthly spend, but if you're going to leave them entirely, they might make an exception.

    It's leased fiber to our data center, not internet fiber. Internet pipe comes into the datacenters. Yes it's a major difference DSL is like $40/month.

    BTW this type of fiber is sometimes called Dark Fiber.



  • @Jason said in Small office:

    BTW this type of fiber is sometimes called Dark Fiber.

    Who owns that fiber?

    I used to refer to the fiber between our two buildings that we own completely as dark fiber, and I was filleted on SpiceWorks for it.


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    @Dashrender said in Small office:

    @Jason said in Small office:

    BTW this type of fiber is sometimes called Dark Fiber.

    Who owns that fiber?

    I used to refer to the fiber between our two buildings that we own completely as dark fiber, and I was filleted on SpiceWorks for it.

    It's leased it would be insane to own fiber over multiple states. It's likely TWC/Level3 or Verizon owned.


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    @Dashrender said in Small office:

    @Jason said in Small office:

    BTW this type of fiber is sometimes called Dark Fiber.

    I used to refer to the fiber between our two buildings that we own completely as dark fiber, and I was filleted on SpiceWorks for it.

    Fiber you own isn't normally dark fiber. Dark fiber is the extra strands ISPs aren't using.



  • @Jason said in Small office:

    @Dashrender said in Small office:

    @Jason said in Small office:

    BTW this type of fiber is sometimes called Dark Fiber.

    I used to refer to the fiber between our two buildings that we own completely as dark fiber, and I was filleted on SpiceWorks for it.

    Fiber you own isn't normally dark fiber. Dark fiber is the extra strands ISPs aren't using.

    Correct. Fiber in the ground but not used by the owner of said fiber is "dark fiber."

    For enough money they will let people lease it.



  • @Dashrender said in Small office:

    @Jason said in Small office:

    BTW this type of fiber is sometimes called Dark Fiber.

    Who owns that fiber?

    I used to refer to the fiber between our two buildings that we own completely as dark fiber, and I was filleted on SpiceWorks for it.

    You would be, if you are using it it isn't dark. Dark refers to it not being lit, no traffic. The moment it is used for any purpose it literally stops being dark. 🙂

    On SW there are a ton of people calling all kinds of random things "dark fiber" which is really weird. It's one of the least technical terms in all of IT, no idea how people got the weird usages of it. It's like saying a "dark room" because... the lights aren't on.


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