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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @BRRABill
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      @BRRABill said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

      @DustinB3403 said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

      @BRRABill said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

      If they have the VHD, couldn't you just create a VM in XS, and then attach the VHD after the fact?

      Yes, we tried this yesterday and had no success. The drives were blank as @krisleslie mentioned.

      How or why the VHD's are working now I do not know.

      The bigger issue is that the VHD's are on the SR for the server.

      But they are working now. Maybe it's worth trying again.

      Wait ... how are they on the SR? Are these the VHDs from the VM? Or the VHDs that the Windows Backup program made? (And should also have accompanying XML files.)

      You wouldn't be able to access the SR directly from the Windows machine unless you did a lot of tinkering with XS.

      These backups are from Windows Backup, that were sent into a VHD with the XML files.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said

        These backups are from Windows Backup, that were sent into a VHD with the XML files.

        How in the world did they get on the SR?

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          Are they really on the SR or are they in a VM on the SR?

          If they are on the SR, yeah - like @BRRABill said, how did Windows 7 write VHDs to the SR directly?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Maybe it was mounted as a local disk and written to then disconnected?

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

              Maybe it was mounted as a local disk and written to then disconnected?

              how do you mount the SR to a Windows machine? is it accessable as an NFS mount or SMB share?

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
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                No no, I may have said something confusing.

                The Windows backup VHD's are not on the SR for the XS VHD's.

                So to attach a VHD to the VM he'd have to create a VM and then attach that VHD to the VM from within Windows.

                He created a backup location to a NAS (for windows backup) which was also the same directory for his ISO's.

                So they are on an SR for ISO's (obviously not the same thing).

                Anyways, what we tried yesterday was from a VM to mount the VHD that he had from backup and it was blank (at least for what he was looking for).

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said

                  So to attach a VHD to the VM he'd have to create a VM and then attach that VHD to the VM from within Windows.

                  Why wouldn't you import the VHD through XC, then create a VM and attach the imported VHD?

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @BRRABill
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                    @BRRABill said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

                    @DustinB3403 said

                    So to attach a VHD to the VM he'd have to create a VM and then attach that VHD to the VM from within Windows.

                    Why wouldn't you import the VHD through XC, then create a VM and attach the imported VHD?

                    Tried that as well, he doesn't have enough capacity on his VM SR.

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @DustinB3403
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                      @DustinB3403 said

                      Tried that as well, he doesn't have enough capacity on his VM SR.

                      Can you shrink the VHD externally and then maybe it will fit.

                      Sheesh, what a process!

                      But, if there isn't enough room, how is the VM going to run at all?

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @BRRABill
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                        @BRRABill said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

                        @DustinB3403 said

                        But, if there isn't enough room, how is the VM going to run at all?

                        Exactly...

                        Which is why if he has the data now (for whatever reason) he should just copy the data, and build a new VM, install the application, and import the data.

                        No point in dragging it out trying to get it to work. He's been down for days now from what I understand.

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                        • K
                          krisleslie
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                          Success I got it working

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                          • art_of_shredA
                            art_of_shred Banned
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                            Congrats. And thanks to @DustinB3403 for jumping in to help.

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                            • K
                              krisleslie
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                              its syncing back with my sensors! With that said I CAN"T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR YOU HELP! But I can thank you with beer @ Spiceworld if I can make it this year!!!!

                              I'm letting the database rebuild now about 1-2 months of data and I'm back in business.

                              I have no friggin clue why we couldn't see the data yesterday. Just for shits and giggles, I created another VM, used the windows 7 iso and booted, and did the repair option and I pointed to the back up, it still won't let me load it. I have no clue why.

                              But none the less, I am able to attach the VHD from the windows backup, and see my actual system image and pull my individual files from my database.

                              My app is a security system

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                              • K
                                krisleslie
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                                I thank Dustin big time he has helped me out tremendously!

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @krisleslie
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                                  @krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

                                  its syncing back with my sensors! With that said I CAN"T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR YOU HELP! But I can thank you with beer @ Spiceworld if I can make it this year!!!!

                                  You missed him at MangoCon this week!

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill @krisleslie
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                                    @krisleslie ... awesome!

                                    @DustinB3403 great job!!!!

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                                      krisleslie
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                                      Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @krisleslie
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                                        @krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

                                        Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.

                                        Bingo.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @krisleslie
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                                          @krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

                                          Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.

                                          I think even @scottalanmiller has back peddled on install XS on USB. Might want to just weigh the options there

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

                                            @krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

                                            Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.

                                            I think even @scottalanmiller has back peddled on install XS on USB. Might want to just weigh the options there

                                            I think if you do it the way we suggest now, it's OK.

                                            Though it is not technically supported by Citrix if you ever want support.

                                            TBH I am still on the fence what I would do if doing things over.

                                            The one thing is that XS is pretty easy to recover from a boot failure, as you saw first hand. (IF you have the metadata backed up which I think you did not, correct?)

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