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    • travisdh1T
      travisdh1 @AdamF
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      @fuznutz04 @BRRABill may be correct, that lv isn't getting loaded for some reason. Does 'lvscan' show anything?

      The 'unrecognised disk label' shouldn't happen. Something went wrong for XS to not load lvm on boot, figuring out what is the hard part. If it's the same thing that happened before, @scottalanmiller is probably correct that the RAID card is at fault.

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      • AdamFA
        AdamF @travisdh1
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        @travisdh1 I just did a test on the card using the built in diagnostics with the LifeCycle controller. All tests passed.

        The hard drives in the RAID set were taken from another old NAS device that had it's own RAID on it. Could something be left over on the disks that is not being properly wiped during creation of the new RAID set?

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        • AdamFA
          AdamF
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          New plan. I'm going to destroy the entire RAID array again, and recreate. This time, I'm going to do a full initialization. Previously, I just did a "fast initialization." with 4 3 TB drives, this should take about 1.5 years to complete.

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @AdamF
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            @fuznutz04 said in XenServer installation SR issue:

            New plan. I'm going to destroy the entire RAID array again, and recreate. This time, I'm going to do a full initialization. Previously, I just did a "fast initialization." with 4 3 TB drives, this should take about 1.5 years to complete.

            At least it's RAID10, so only 1.5 years instead of 6 years for a RAID6 😉

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            • AdamFA
              AdamF @travisdh1
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              @travisdh1 said in XenServer installation SR issue:

              @fuznutz04 said in XenServer installation SR issue:

              New plan. I'm going to destroy the entire RAID array again, and recreate. This time, I'm going to do a full initialization. Previously, I just did a "fast initialization." with 4 3 TB drives, this should take about 1.5 years to complete.

              At least it's RAID10, so only 1.5 years instead of 6 years for a RAID6 😉

              Valid point. Glass is half full.

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @travisdh1
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                @travisdh1 said in XenServer installation SR issue:

                @fuznutz04 @BRRABill may be correct, that lv isn't getting loaded for some reason. Does 'lvscan' show anything?

                The 'unrecognised disk label' shouldn't happen. Something went wrong for XS to not load lvm on boot, figuring out what is the hard part. If it's the same thing that happened before, @scottalanmiller is probably correct that the RAID card is at fault.

                It does say it is ACTIVE though, which is strange.

                But it definitely seems like XS isn't "formatting" it correctly. "Formatting" being whatever you call setting a LV up.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                  @BRRABill said in XenServer installation SR issue:

                  @travisdh1 said in XenServer installation SR issue:

                  @fuznutz04 @BRRABill may be correct, that lv isn't getting loaded for some reason. Does 'lvscan' show anything?

                  The 'unrecognised disk label' shouldn't happen. Something went wrong for XS to not load lvm on boot, figuring out what is the hard part. If it's the same thing that happened before, @scottalanmiller is probably correct that the RAID card is at fault.

                  It does say it is ACTIVE though, which is strange.

                  But it definitely seems like XS isn't "formatting" it correctly. "Formatting" being whatever you call setting a LV up.

                  LV would be voluming. Formatting is a reference to the file system level.

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in XenServer installation SR issue:

                    @BRRABill said in XenServer installation SR issue:

                    @travisdh1 said in XenServer installation SR issue:

                    @fuznutz04 @BRRABill may be correct, that lv isn't getting loaded for some reason. Does 'lvscan' show anything?

                    The 'unrecognised disk label' shouldn't happen. Something went wrong for XS to not load lvm on boot, figuring out what is the hard part. If it's the same thing that happened before, @scottalanmiller is probably correct that the RAID card is at fault.

                    It does say it is ACTIVE though, which is strange.

                    But it definitely seems like XS isn't "formatting" it correctly. "Formatting" being whatever you call setting a LV up.

                    LV would be voluming. Formatting is a reference to the file system level.

                    Thank you LVM/Linux sensei.

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                    • AdamFA
                      AdamF
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                      48% initialized. I might actually be able to try an install again today!

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @AdamF
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                        @fuznutz04 said in XenServer installation SR issue:

                        48% initialized. I might actually be able to try an install again today!

                        Are you watching it? It always goes slower that way. 🙂

                        I like to go across the building and have a few beers while waiting.

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                        • AdamFA
                          AdamF @BRRABill
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                          @BRRABill said in XenServer installation SR issue:

                          @fuznutz04 said in XenServer installation SR issue:

                          48% initialized. I might actually be able to try an install again today!

                          Are you watching it? It always goes slower that way. 🙂

                          I like to go across the building and have a few beers while waiting.

                          Well, The server is sitting on my floor, with a monitor beside my desk. I cant help it, I keep glancing over at it. Maybe I should just turn the monitor off. Cant have a few beers just yet... need to focus for a few more hours.

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @AdamF
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                            @fuznutz04 said in XenServer installation SR issue:

                            @BRRABill said in XenServer installation SR issue:

                            @fuznutz04 said in XenServer installation SR issue:

                            48% initialized. I might actually be able to try an install again today!

                            Are you watching it? It always goes slower that way. 🙂

                            I like to go across the building and have a few beers while waiting.

                            Well, The server is sitting on my floor, with a monitor beside my desk. I cant help it, I keep glancing over at it. Maybe I should just turn the monitor off. Cant have a few beers just yet... need to focus for a few more hours.

                            Beer helps me focus. Then makes me sleep. So I have to be very productive in those few hours I'm awake. 😉

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                            • AdamFA
                              AdamF @BRRABill
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                              @BRRABill Exactly. It's the sleep part that isn't good while trying to get stuff done.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @AdamF
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                                @fuznutz04 said in XenServer installation SR issue:

                                @BRRABill Exactly. It's the sleep part that isn't good while trying to get stuff done.

                                But think how refreshed you will be when you wake up from your catnap at 4:00.

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                                • AdamFA
                                  AdamF
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                                  So the Full initialization of the raid set and reinstall did nothing. Same results as before.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @AdamF
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                                    @fuznutz04 said in XenServer installation SR issue:

                                    So the Full initialization of the raid set and reinstall did nothing. Same results as before.

                                    Of course it is the same result, this is not where your problem is. I am not sure why you would think that the result would be different. Recreating the array loses everything always. Does not matter if the initialization is full or fast.

                                    Now, I do not know where your problem is as I have no experience with XS 7 and little with 6.5.

                                    Setting up my home lab and testing this out is waiting on me having private office space again. Instead of in the family room.

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                                    • AdamFA
                                      AdamF @JaredBusch
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                                      @JaredBusch said in XenServer installation SR issue:

                                      @fuznutz04 said in XenServer installation SR issue:

                                      So the Full initialization of the raid set and reinstall did nothing. Same results as before.

                                      Of course it is the same result, this is not where your problem is. I am not sure why you would think that the result would be different. Recreating the array loses everything always. Does not matter if the initialization is full or fast.

                                      Now, I do not know where your problem is as I have no experience with XS 7 and little with 6.5.

                                      Setting up my home lab and testing this out is waiting on me having private office space again. Instead of in the family room.

                                      My thought was that something wasn't being properly cleared during a quick initialization. I'm grasping at straws. Not really sure where to go from here. Calling the vendor and asking for a replacement controller? They will probably say that they installed an OS on it for testing before it went out the door.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @AdamF
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                                        @fuznutz04 said in XenServer installation SR issue:

                                        @JaredBusch said in XenServer installation SR issue:

                                        @fuznutz04 said in XenServer installation SR issue:

                                        So the Full initialization of the raid set and reinstall did nothing. Same results as before.

                                        Of course it is the same result, this is not where your problem is. I am not sure why you would think that the result would be different. Recreating the array loses everything always. Does not matter if the initialization is full or fast.

                                        Now, I do not know where your problem is as I have no experience with XS 7 and little with 6.5.

                                        Setting up my home lab and testing this out is waiting on me having private office space again. Instead of in the family room.

                                        My thought was that something wasn't being properly cleared during a quick initialization. I'm grasping at straws. Not really sure where to go from here. Calling the vendor and asking for a replacement controller? They will probably say that they installed an OS on it for testing before it went out the door.

                                        If you are that desperate, install ESXi or Hyper-V server or something and see if you have similar results.

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                                        • guyinpvG
                                          guyinpv
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                                          It wouldn't hurt to just turn off RAID, bypass everything, stick in just one drive and try to install to it. Use your newest drive.

                                          If you must RAID, do something simpler and just mirror two newest drives.

                                          It would seem on the surface that XS simply can't configure the way it needs, which means perhaps hardware incompatibility?

                                          If it were me, I feel I have to rule out the RAID and RAID hardware and drives entirely. If a drive works by itself, then try a simple RAID mirror. If that works, try the 10 again with 4 drives. I could be one of the physical drives just isn't matching all the rest in some sense.

                                          Like you said, grasping at straws.

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                                          • DanpD
                                            Danp
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                                            Have you tried it without enabling the thin provisioning?

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