What Are You Doing Right Now
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I put 7 down because 1) I was in front of my computer until 4:00 pm 2) i spent time taking care of my son as well which would equal 2 hours of the work day not worked.
- When did you start?
Started at 8:00
- Not relevant. They can't stop paying you when someone talks to you at the water cooler or you get distracted by work conversations. Those things happen at the office or at home, they are part of your work day. When in the office you get loads and loads of time that you can't answer the phone, get to emails, etc. It's just normal day.
That's fair.
So definitely an eight hour day. There has to be some kind of soft limit, like stepping away for half of the day and not being available is one thing, but being slightly unavailable for a short period of time is just normal work day stuff.
uh - what? He started at 8 AM, let's assume his stated lunch was from noon to 1 PM, and he closed the computer at 4 PM... that seems like 7 hours to me.
Am I missing something?
I think the issue is that he got docked an hour while working from home, but while in the office, he can dick around for that hour or more and still get paid for 8.
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@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I put 7 down because 1) I was in front of my computer until 4:00 pm 2) i spent time taking care of my son as well which would equal 2 hours of the work day not worked.
- When did you start?
Started at 8:00
- Not relevant. They can't stop paying you when someone talks to you at the water cooler or you get distracted by work conversations. Those things happen at the office or at home, they are part of your work day. When in the office you get loads and loads of time that you can't answer the phone, get to emails, etc. It's just normal day.
That's fair.
So definitely an eight hour day. There has to be some kind of soft limit, like stepping away for half of the day and not being available is one thing, but being slightly unavailable for a short period of time is just normal work day stuff.
uh - what? He started at 8 AM, let's assume his stated lunch was from noon to 1 PM, and he closed the computer at 4 PM... that seems like 7 hours to me.
Am I missing something?
I think the issue is that he got docked an hour while working from home, but while in the office, he can dick around for that hour or more and still get paid for 8.
Please explain where he was docked?
If he was in the office - and arrived at 8 AM, took lunch noon to 1 PM, then left at 4 PM - that's only 7 hours of clock time.
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Now - if the company was giving him the free extra hour of 4-5 PM because he was "in the office that day" that's a totally different thing.
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
odd.. I work from home ; Get more done
Not odd, the entire industry has known for decades that you send people home to work, you bring them to the office for politics and to serve the egos of managers. Nearly everyone is way more productive at home. That's why nearly all good companies don't just allow it, they encourage it.
as that may be true: i was saying odd because of hours and how I have to put less hours on my time card because I worked from home.
Does this equate to less pay?
not hourly, but over all, Yes.
Wait a min - if you're not hourly - WTFC? the number you give them only matters if you pay is tied to it....
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
odd.. I work from home ; Get more done
Not odd, the entire industry has known for decades that you send people home to work, you bring them to the office for politics and to serve the egos of managers. Nearly everyone is way more productive at home. That's why nearly all good companies don't just allow it, they encourage it.
as that may be true: i was saying odd because of hours and how I have to put less hours on my time card because I worked from home.
Does this equate to less pay?
not hourly, but over all, Yes.
Wait a min - if you're not hourly - WTFC? the number you give them only matters if you pay is tied to it....
My hourly rate doesn't change.
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
odd.. I work from home ; Get more done
Not odd, the entire industry has known for decades that you send people home to work, you bring them to the office for politics and to serve the egos of managers. Nearly everyone is way more productive at home. That's why nearly all good companies don't just allow it, they encourage it.
as that may be true: i was saying odd because of hours and how I have to put less hours on my time card because I worked from home.
Does this equate to less pay?
not hourly, but over all, Yes.
Wait a min - if you're not hourly - WTFC? the number you give them only matters if you pay is tied to it....
My hourly rate doesn't change.
my overall pay for the day changes.
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
my overall pay for the day changes.
Something doesn't make sense here, either you're salary or hourly, or salary with overtime benefits (like in NY with many IT professionals).
Your rate can never go lower than your base hourly rate, say $20/hour for "missing an hour of work"
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
my overall pay for the day changes.
Something doesn't make sense here, either you're salary or hourly, or salary with overtime benefits (like in NY with many IT professionals).
Your rate can never go lower than your base hourly rate, say $20/hour for "missing an hour of work"
This is not New Guys - I'm Hourly .
have been since I started and will not go Salary until they make me.
The old boss had in the past mess with peoples rates for certain issues. add that to the list of why i want out of here -
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
my overall pay for the day changes.
Something doesn't make sense here, either you're salary or hourly, or salary with overtime benefits (like in NY with many IT professionals).
Your rate can never go lower than your base hourly rate, say $20/hour for "missing an hour of work"
This is not New Guys - I'm Hourly .
have been since I started and will not go Salary until they make me.
The old boss had in the past mess with peoples rates for certain issues. add that to the list of why i want out of hereGotcha, so what did you mean when you said?
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
my overall pay for the day changes.
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
my overall pay for the day changes.
Something doesn't make sense here, either you're salary or hourly, or salary with overtime benefits (like in NY with many IT professionals).
Your rate can never go lower than your base hourly rate, say $20/hour for "missing an hour of work"
This is not New Guys - I'm Hourly .
have been since I started and will not go Salary until they make me.
The old boss had in the past mess with peoples rates for certain issues. add that to the list of why i want out of hereGotcha, so what did you mean when you said?
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
my overall pay for the day changes.
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
odd.. I work from home ; Get more done
Not odd, the entire industry has known for decades that you send people home to work, you bring them to the office for politics and to serve the egos of managers. Nearly everyone is way more productive at home. That's why nearly all good companies don't just allow it, they encourage it.
as that may be true: i was saying odd because of hours and how I have to put less hours on my time card because I worked from home.
Does this equate to less pay?
not hourly, but over all, Yes.
My hourly rate doesnt' change from xx.xx, My pay for the day would be an hour short making for less hours of the day affecting overall pay not the rate at which I am paid.
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
odd.. I work from home ; Get more done
Not odd, the entire industry has known for decades that you send people home to work, you bring them to the office for politics and to serve the egos of managers. Nearly everyone is way more productive at home. That's why nearly all good companies don't just allow it, they encourage it.
as that may be true: i was saying odd because of hours and how I have to put less hours on my time card because I worked from home.
Does this equate to less pay?
not hourly, but over all, Yes.
Wait a min - if you're not hourly - WTFC? the number you give them only matters if you pay is tied to it....
My hourly rate doesn't change.
Who ever said anything about the hourly rate? You pullin' a Dustin on me?
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
odd.. I work from home ; Get more done
Not odd, the entire industry has known for decades that you send people home to work, you bring them to the office for politics and to serve the egos of managers. Nearly everyone is way more productive at home. That's why nearly all good companies don't just allow it, they encourage it.
as that may be true: i was saying odd because of hours and how I have to put less hours on my time card because I worked from home.
Does this equate to less pay?
not hourly, but over all, Yes.
Wait a min - if you're not hourly - WTFC? the number you give them only matters if you pay is tied to it....
My hourly rate doesn't change.
Who ever said anything about the hourly rate? You pullin' a Dustin on me?
you asked if it effected my pay
I explained. -
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
my overall pay for the day changes.
Something doesn't make sense here, either you're salary or hourly, or salary with overtime benefits (like in NY with many IT professionals).
Your rate can never go lower than your base hourly rate, say $20/hour for "missing an hour of work"
This is not New Guys - I'm Hourly .
have been since I started and will not go Salary until they make me.
The old boss had in the past mess with peoples rates for certain issues. add that to the list of why i want out of hereGotcha, so what did you mean when you said?
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
my overall pay for the day changes.
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
odd.. I work from home ; Get more done
Not odd, the entire industry has known for decades that you send people home to work, you bring them to the office for politics and to serve the egos of managers. Nearly everyone is way more productive at home. That's why nearly all good companies don't just allow it, they encourage it.
as that may be true: i was saying odd because of hours and how I have to put less hours on my time card because I worked from home.
Does this equate to less pay?
not hourly, but over all, Yes.
My hourly rate doesnt' change from xx.xx, My pay for the day would be an hour short making for less hours of the day affecting overall pay not the rate at which I am paid.
As it should be - you only worked 7 hours, not 8.....
8 AM to noon = 4 hours
1 PM to 4 PM = 3 hours
total hours = 7 hourswhere is my math wrong here?
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
my overall pay for the day changes.
Something doesn't make sense here, either you're salary or hourly, or salary with overtime benefits (like in NY with many IT professionals).
Your rate can never go lower than your base hourly rate, say $20/hour for "missing an hour of work"
This is not New Guys - I'm Hourly .
have been since I started and will not go Salary until they make me.
The old boss had in the past mess with peoples rates for certain issues. add that to the list of why i want out of hereGotcha, so what did you mean when you said?
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
my overall pay for the day changes.
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
odd.. I work from home ; Get more done
Not odd, the entire industry has known for decades that you send people home to work, you bring them to the office for politics and to serve the egos of managers. Nearly everyone is way more productive at home. That's why nearly all good companies don't just allow it, they encourage it.
as that may be true: i was saying odd because of hours and how I have to put less hours on my time card because I worked from home.
Does this equate to less pay?
not hourly, but over all, Yes.
My hourly rate doesnt' change from xx.xx, My pay for the day would be an hour short making for less hours of the day affecting overall pay not the rate at which I am paid.
As it should be - you only worked 7 hours, not 8.....
8 AM to noon = 4 hours
1 PM to 4 PM = 3 hours
total hours = 7 hourswhere is my math wrong here?
thats what i said
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
my overall pay for the day changes.
Something doesn't make sense here, either you're salary or hourly, or salary with overtime benefits (like in NY with many IT professionals).
Your rate can never go lower than your base hourly rate, say $20/hour for "missing an hour of work"
This is not New Guys - I'm Hourly .
have been since I started and will not go Salary until they make me.
The old boss had in the past mess with peoples rates for certain issues. add that to the list of why i want out of hereGotcha, so what did you mean when you said?
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
my overall pay for the day changes.
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
odd.. I work from home ; Get more done
Not odd, the entire industry has known for decades that you send people home to work, you bring them to the office for politics and to serve the egos of managers. Nearly everyone is way more productive at home. That's why nearly all good companies don't just allow it, they encourage it.
as that may be true: i was saying odd because of hours and how I have to put less hours on my time card because I worked from home.
Does this equate to less pay?
not hourly, but over all, Yes.
My hourly rate doesnt' change from xx.xx, My pay for the day would be an hour short making for less hours of the day affecting overall pay not the rate at which I am paid.
As it should be - you only worked 7 hours, not 8.....
8 AM to noon = 4 hours
1 PM to 4 PM = 3 hours
total hours = 7 hourswhere is my math wrong here?
thats what i said
OH - so... there's no problem here because you are being paid completely accurately.
So what the fuck are we talking about then? And if you say you've been shorted an hour - you better show me how you were shorted that hour compared to working the exact same time frame in the office vs home.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
my overall pay for the day changes.
Something doesn't make sense here, either you're salary or hourly, or salary with overtime benefits (like in NY with many IT professionals).
Your rate can never go lower than your base hourly rate, say $20/hour for "missing an hour of work"
This is not New Guys - I'm Hourly .
have been since I started and will not go Salary until they make me.
The old boss had in the past mess with peoples rates for certain issues. add that to the list of why i want out of hereGotcha, so what did you mean when you said?
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
my overall pay for the day changes.
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
odd.. I work from home ; Get more done
Not odd, the entire industry has known for decades that you send people home to work, you bring them to the office for politics and to serve the egos of managers. Nearly everyone is way more productive at home. That's why nearly all good companies don't just allow it, they encourage it.
as that may be true: i was saying odd because of hours and how I have to put less hours on my time card because I worked from home.
Does this equate to less pay?
not hourly, but over all, Yes.
My hourly rate doesnt' change from xx.xx, My pay for the day would be an hour short making for less hours of the day affecting overall pay not the rate at which I am paid.
As it should be - you only worked 7 hours, not 8.....
8 AM to noon = 4 hours
1 PM to 4 PM = 3 hours
total hours = 7 hourswhere is my math wrong here?
thats what i said
OH - so... there's no problem here because you are being paid completely accurately.
So what the fuck are we talking about then? And if you say you've been shorted an hour - you better show me how you were shorted that hour compared to working the exact same time frame in the office vs home.
The way it was explained to me was only put what you actively worked IE on calls, working on projects etc. not the total time spent in front of the computer.
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
my overall pay for the day changes.
Something doesn't make sense here, either you're salary or hourly, or salary with overtime benefits (like in NY with many IT professionals).
Your rate can never go lower than your base hourly rate, say $20/hour for "missing an hour of work"
This is not New Guys - I'm Hourly .
have been since I started and will not go Salary until they make me.
The old boss had in the past mess with peoples rates for certain issues. add that to the list of why i want out of hereGotcha, so what did you mean when you said?
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
my overall pay for the day changes.
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
odd.. I work from home ; Get more done
Not odd, the entire industry has known for decades that you send people home to work, you bring them to the office for politics and to serve the egos of managers. Nearly everyone is way more productive at home. That's why nearly all good companies don't just allow it, they encourage it.
as that may be true: i was saying odd because of hours and how I have to put less hours on my time card because I worked from home.
Does this equate to less pay?
not hourly, but over all, Yes.
My hourly rate doesnt' change from xx.xx, My pay for the day would be an hour short making for less hours of the day affecting overall pay not the rate at which I am paid.
As it should be - you only worked 7 hours, not 8.....
8 AM to noon = 4 hours
1 PM to 4 PM = 3 hours
total hours = 7 hourswhere is my math wrong here?
thats what i said
OH - so... there's no problem here because you are being paid completely accurately.
So what the fuck are we talking about then? And if you say you've been shorted an hour - you better show me how you were shorted that hour compared to working the exact same time frame in the office vs home.
The way it was explained to me was only put what you actively worked IE on calls, working on projects etc. not the total time spent in front of the computer.
OK - but you said you spend 6.5 hours working on client calls - and .5 hours reading work email... that's 7 hours... Are you saying you're only going to be paid for 6.5 hours?
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
The way it was explained to me was only put what you actively worked IE on calls, working on projects etc. not the total time spent in front of the computer.
Illegal, you are paid for your time that you are expected to be able to work, your boss keeping you busy doesn't affect the time you're "there and ready to work".
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You aren't there and ready to work for your lunch break, so 1 hour. The assumption, generally is you work an 8 hour day (at a minimum) for 40 hours a week (full-time).
If you worked from 8-4 with a 1 hour lunch, that's 7 hours. But your boss can't tell you "only report what was billable hours to me (so I don't have to pay for the potential 1 hour at the end of day) where you might be closing up tickets, organizing your desk or otherwise doing work for the business."
Your boss making that statement is completely illegal.
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Lastly.
Find another job already. You're being taken advantage of.
