What Are You Doing Right Now
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@fuznutz04 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@fuznutz04 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@fuznutz04 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Trying to get a VM spun up with VMM, but it's telling me that KVM is unavailable. I suspect it's because Virtualization is turned off in my BIOS....
Does /dev/kvm exist?
Negative
Either lacking the capability in the CPU or deactivated in the BIOS, then.
Yeah, it is definitely disabled in the BIOS. I just can't enable it at the moment.
That's both a crappy, and silly, problem to have.
Yeah, it's an old "Hand me down" laptop that I've had in the desk drawer for years. Just need to reset the PW somehow. This thing actually runs Korora quite nicely for being a super old Dell Latitude D630!
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@fuznutz04 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@fuznutz04 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@fuznutz04 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@fuznutz04 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Trying to get a VM spun up with VMM, but it's telling me that KVM is unavailable. I suspect it's because Virtualization is turned off in my BIOS....
Does /dev/kvm exist?
Negative
Either lacking the capability in the CPU or deactivated in the BIOS, then.
Yeah, it is definitely disabled in the BIOS. I just can't enable it at the moment.
That's both a crappy, and silly, problem to have.
Yeah, it's an old "Hand me down" laptop that I've had in the desk drawer for years. Just need to reset the PW somehow. This thing actually runs Korora quite nicely for being a super old Dell Latitude D630!
Definitely no need for the latest hardware for it to run really well.
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This week's round of "I own the network, not the company, and I'm not going to hand over the details of it to anyone."
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
This week's round of "I own the network, not the company, and I'm not going to hand over the details of it to anyone."
Yes but you assume the CEO knows what they are doing. I think it's perfectly ok to question a request as opposed to just blindly doing it because you were ordered.
Of course, I am also preparing to be told I am an idiot in 5...4...3...
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@BRRABill said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
This week's round of "I own the network, not the company, and I'm not going to hand over the details of it to anyone."
Yes but you assume the CEO knows what they are doing.
Whoa, where did you get that impression? I assume that the CEO is the boss, nothing more.
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@BRRABill said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I think it's perfectly ok to question a request as opposed to just blindly doing it because you were ordered.
If by question you mean "double check with the boss and voice your concerns until he makes it clear you are to follow orders?" Okay, that's how you can handle that if you have that much authority. Anything past that, and you are insubordinate. It's NOT okay to refuse to follow orders. Questioning and refusing are very different things.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@BRRABill said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I think it's perfectly ok to question a request as opposed to just blindly doing it because you were ordered.
If by question you mean "double check with the boss and voice your concerns until he makes it clear you are to follow orders?" Okay, that's how you can handle that if you have that much authority. Anything past that, and you are insubordinate. It's NOT okay to refuse to follow orders. Questioning and refusing are very different things.
Most companies don't even know how to fill out a proper job description but the expectation is they will know how to properly vet a third party company?
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So how would this conversation with the boss go? "Hey, CEO... your auditor is trying to do their job and I don't understand security, but I feel like this auditor is either a risk to my network or undermines my consolidation of power. I'd like to question your hiring this guy and if I should comply with the audit that you paid for or not?"
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@BRRABill said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I think it's perfectly ok to question a request as opposed to just blindly doing it because you were ordered.
If by question you mean "double check with the boss and voice your concerns until he makes it clear you are to follow orders?" Okay, that's how you can handle that if you have that much authority. Anything past that, and you are insubordinate. It's NOT okay to refuse to follow orders. Questioning and refusing are very different things.
That's all I meant.
If the boss said "hey erase all the files on the network" I'd definitely question and fight, and perhaps ultimately never do it and quit first.
But yes, his network, his rules.
I was reacting to you saying
"Other than verifying that this isn't a scam and that the owners/CEO or whoever is running IT did in fact authorize this, IT has NOTHING to say here - this is not their right to assess. "I disagree that you can't assess a request and go back to the CEO (or management) and voice concerns.
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@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Most companies don't even know how to fill out a proper job description but the expectation is they will know how to properly vet a third party company?
I hate to tell you this, but:
- This automatically means that they were unable to vet the internal parties too. So the internal IT would demonstrate that they can't be trusted automatically by triggering this line of thinking.
- This isn't IT's concern. Period.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
So how would this conversation with the boss go? "Hey, CEO... your auditor is trying to do their job and I don't understand security, but I feel like this auditor is either a risk to my network or undermines my consolidation of power. I'd like to question your hiring this guy and if I should comply with the audit that you paid for or not?"
I'm talking about the initial hiring process. I can absolutely understand hesitation consider the company has no idea what they need or how to vet. After you hire a company though I completely agree with you.
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@BRRABill said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
If the boss said "hey erase all the files on the network" I'd definitely question and fight, and perhaps ultimately never do it and quit first.
What employee logic leads to that?
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@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I'm talking about the initial hiring process. I can absolutely understand hesitation consider the company has no idea what they need or how to vet. After you hire a company though I completely agree with you.
Right, and the situation here is that the audit is already underway.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@BRRABill said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
If the boss said "hey erase all the files on the network" I'd definitely question and fight, and perhaps ultimately never do it and quit first.
What employee logic leads to that?
I can already tell what path this argument is leading down. LOL. I've said my peace.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@BRRABill said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
If the boss said "hey erase all the files on the network" I'd definitely question and fight, and perhaps ultimately never do it and quit first.
What employee logic leads to that?
What logic leads to employees having logic?
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@BRRABill said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I was reacting to you saying
"Other than verifying that this isn't a scam and that the owners/CEO or whoever is running IT did in fact authorize this, IT has NOTHING to say here - this is not their right to assess. "I disagree that you can't assess a request and go back to the CEO (or management) and voice concerns.
What would those concerns be? That the audit is real? That the CEO did actually authorize it?
Any "concerns" past that are not really appropriate, right? What possible "concern" is there here that is legitimate to bring up realistically?
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@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@BRRABill said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
If the boss said "hey erase all the files on the network" I'd definitely question and fight, and perhaps ultimately never do it and quit first.
What employee logic leads to that?
What logic leads to employees having logic?
Given that that is the primary value in an IT employee....
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@BRRABill said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I was reacting to you saying
"Other than verifying that this isn't a scam and that the owners/CEO or whoever is running IT did in fact authorize this, IT has NOTHING to say here - this is not their right to assess. "I disagree that you can't assess a request and go back to the CEO (or management) and voice concerns.
What would those concerns be? That the audit is real? That the CEO did actually authorize it?
Any "concerns" past that are not really appropriate, right? What possible "concern" is there here that is legitimate to bring up realistically?
In THAT particular situation, you are correct. I am arguing against the concept that IT should never question orders or raise concerns.
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@BRRABill said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@BRRABill said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
If the boss said "hey erase all the files on the network" I'd definitely question and fight, and perhaps ultimately never do it and quit first.
What employee logic leads to that?
I can already tell what path this argument is leading down. LOL. I've said my peace.
But you see my concern? If that's the reaction of said employee, you should be terrified that they have the keys to the kingdom. That they feel that their own emotional ownership of the network is so important that they would quit (or worse, attempt to seize control) rather than do their jobs is a HUGE risk and something we should specifically never see in someone we need to trust in an IT position.
A security audit looking for that very reaction would be a good one to have, in fact.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@BRRABill said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
If the boss said "hey erase all the files on the network" I'd definitely question and fight, and perhaps ultimately never do it and quit first.
What employee logic leads to that?
What logic leads to employees having logic?
Given that that is the primary value in an IT employee....
Only if they listen to you. If they don't listen you have virtually no value
