What Are You Doing Right Now
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@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre A link to the past was fantastic.
Have you played counterpart games of the era? Do you feel that it is fantastic compared to what else there was on the same technology like Secret of Mana or Chrono Trigger?
Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger are two of the best RPG's ever but I don't compare every game to the best games of all time. A game can still be good without being the best
Yes, but they were contemporaries on the same platform. If you aren't comparing it against the good games of the era, what do you compare against to call it a fantastic game? Or are you saying that the entire era was pretty much amazing? I'm not saying that it was the worst of the era, but it was in an era with some pretty amazing competition. What titles do you feel it was better than, for example?
There's a lot of crappy games for the SNES that came out in 1991. Inindo: Way of the Ninja is one example, but there are a lot of them. I can't think of a game that has come out in the past decade that I can honestly say is better than either Chrono Trigger or Secret of Mana though regardless of the technological advances we've made. I don't personally care about graphics I only care about the gameplay. I actually really liked this game called Crawl which is on steam but only supports local multiplayer. One of my projects is going to be building an arcade machine of it.
Well people don't really make JRPGs that much. Those that do come out are mostly one person or two person projects. Which has its benefits - more games, freedom to explore different ideas. But it is nearly impossible to get the programmers, writers, artists and such to make a Chrono Trigger again in the SNES era style because no one will buy it that much. But if you look at where the JRPG genre and the ARPG genres have gone since then, I think what people are making today that descended from those games are even better. Like Mass Effect, for example.
When I hear JRPG it sends me back to the persona RPG's or Disgaea which were an actual exercise in madness. The amount of grinding you had to do in these games make them essentially unplayable imo.
I will quit playing a game when it starts to become a grind... Or cheat my way through the grind, lol... I still have Gameshark codes for Final Fantasy 2 embedded in my brain.
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I couldn't stand the Zelda style games - I played one or two times and just bailed - but then I realized I wasn't ever really a gamer.
I loved and still do love RTS/Resource management games like AoE and Command and Conquer.
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@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre A link to the past was fantastic.
Have you played counterpart games of the era? Do you feel that it is fantastic compared to what else there was on the same technology like Secret of Mana or Chrono Trigger?
Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger are two of the best RPG's ever but I don't compare every game to the best games of all time. A game can still be good without being the best
Yes, but they were contemporaries on the same platform. If you aren't comparing it against the good games of the era, what do you compare against to call it a fantastic game? Or are you saying that the entire era was pretty much amazing? I'm not saying that it was the worst of the era, but it was in an era with some pretty amazing competition. What titles do you feel it was better than, for example?
There's a lot of crappy games for the SNES that came out in 1991. Inindo: Way of the Ninja is one example, but there are a lot of them. I can't think of a game that has come out in the past decade that I can honestly say is better than either Chrono Trigger or Secret of Mana though regardless of the technological advances we've made. I don't personally care about graphics I only care about the gameplay. I actually really liked this game called Crawl which is on steam but only supports local multiplayer. One of my projects is going to be building an arcade machine of it.
Well people don't really make JRPGs that much. Those that do come out are mostly one person or two person projects. Which has its benefits - more games, freedom to explore different ideas. But it is nearly impossible to get the programmers, writers, artists and such to make a Chrono Trigger again in the SNES era style because no one will buy it that much. But if you look at where the JRPG genre and the ARPG genres have gone since then, I think what people are making today that descended from those games are even better. Like Mass Effect, for example.
When I hear JRPG it sends me back to the persona RPG's or Disgaea which were an actual exercise in madness. The amount of grinding you had to do in these games make them essentially unplayable imo.
Zelda was one of the founders of the JRPG genre, and the first popular (maybe the first at all) ARPG / JRPG. All of its contemporaries were non-Action JRPG. Like original Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest.
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@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre A link to the past was fantastic.
Have you played counterpart games of the era? Do you feel that it is fantastic compared to what else there was on the same technology like Secret of Mana or Chrono Trigger?
Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger are two of the best RPG's ever but I don't compare every game to the best games of all time. A game can still be good without being the best
Yes, but they were contemporaries on the same platform. If you aren't comparing it against the good games of the era, what do you compare against to call it a fantastic game? Or are you saying that the entire era was pretty much amazing? I'm not saying that it was the worst of the era, but it was in an era with some pretty amazing competition. What titles do you feel it was better than, for example?
There's a lot of crappy games for the SNES that came out in 1991. Inindo: Way of the Ninja is one example, but there are a lot of them. I can't think of a game that has come out in the past decade that I can honestly say is better than either Chrono Trigger or Secret of Mana though regardless of the technological advances we've made. I don't personally care about graphics I only care about the gameplay. I actually really liked this game called Crawl which is on steam but only supports local multiplayer. One of my projects is going to be building an arcade machine of it.
Well people don't really make JRPGs that much. Those that do come out are mostly one person or two person projects. Which has its benefits - more games, freedom to explore different ideas. But it is nearly impossible to get the programmers, writers, artists and such to make a Chrono Trigger again in the SNES era style because no one will buy it that much. But if you look at where the JRPG genre and the ARPG genres have gone since then, I think what people are making today that descended from those games are even better. Like Mass Effect, for example.
When I hear JRPG it sends me back to the persona RPG's or Disgaea which were an actual exercise in madness. The amount of grinding you had to do in these games make them essentially unplayable imo.
I will quit playing a game when it starts to become a grind... Or cheat my way through the grind, lol... I still have Gameshark codes for Final Fantasy 2 embedded in my brain.
That's what stops me playing Zelda... it's like grinding after the opening scenes most of the time. Even Wind Waker is just endless grinding and running around in circles with basically zero story.
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@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre A link to the past was fantastic.
Have you played counterpart games of the era? Do you feel that it is fantastic compared to what else there was on the same technology like Secret of Mana or Chrono Trigger?
Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger are two of the best RPG's ever but I don't compare every game to the best games of all time. A game can still be good without being the best.
I enjoyed both of those.
Those were amazing. Great stories. I like the FF games from the era as well. Like FF 3 - 6.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre A link to the past was fantastic.
Have you played counterpart games of the era? Do you feel that it is fantastic compared to what else there was on the same technology like Secret of Mana or Chrono Trigger?
Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger are two of the best RPG's ever but I don't compare every game to the best games of all time. A game can still be good without being the best.
I enjoyed both of those.
Those were amazing. Great stories. I like the FF games from the era as well. Like FF 3 - 6.
FF6 is probably my favorite from that line.
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Grinding seems to be what most games on mobile devices are these days - Just not my thing.
Angry Birds was cool because it was about a single mission trying to do the thing. But walking all over a map to collect info to then assemble a puzzle - yeah I think I just put my finger on it.
I don't care for games that have a long term goal, nor do I care for twitch games (FPS).
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Grinding seems to be what most games on mobile devices are these days - Just not my thing.
Angry Birds was cool because it was about a single mission trying to do the thing. But walking all over a map to collect info to then assemble a puzzle - yeah I think I just put my finger on it.
I don't care for games that have a long term goal, nor do I care for twitch games (FPS).
By and large, I agree. The new Final Fantasy Exvius is not so bad, because you get little bits of the story as you complete each place you go. I havent' made up my mind if it's a fun game or not, but it's not terribly boring yet.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Grinding seems to be what most games on mobile devices are these days - Just not my thing.
Angry Birds was cool because it was about a single mission trying to do the thing. But walking all over a map to collect info to then assemble a puzzle - yeah I think I just put my finger on it.
I don't care for games that have a long term goal, nor do I care for twitch games (FPS).
Same here. I'm a GTA kind of player. Give me a gun, a car, and a target. Hunt around a map and talk to people to find a hidden key? Screw that. Imma blow some stuff up!
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@art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Grinding seems to be what most games on mobile devices are these days - Just not my thing.
Angry Birds was cool because it was about a single mission trying to do the thing. But walking all over a map to collect info to then assemble a puzzle - yeah I think I just put my finger on it.
I don't care for games that have a long term goal, nor do I care for twitch games (FPS).
Same here. I'm a GTA kind of player. Give me a gun, a car, and a target. Hunt around a map and talk to people to find a hidden key? Screw that. Imma blow some stuff up!
I hate shooters and twitch games. Just not my style at all. I am a huge JRPG style play or a RTS.
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@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre A link to the past was fantastic.
Have you played counterpart games of the era? Do you feel that it is fantastic compared to what else there was on the same technology like Secret of Mana or Chrono Trigger?
Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger are two of the best RPG's ever but I don't compare every game to the best games of all time. A game can still be good without being the best
Yes, but they were contemporaries on the same platform. If you aren't comparing it against the good games of the era, what do you compare against to call it a fantastic game? Or are you saying that the entire era was pretty much amazing? I'm not saying that it was the worst of the era, but it was in an era with some pretty amazing competition. What titles do you feel it was better than, for example?
There's a lot of crappy games for the SNES that came out in 1991. Inindo: Way of the Ninja is one example, but there are a lot of them. I can't think of a game that has come out in the past decade that I can honestly say is better than either Chrono Trigger or Secret of Mana though regardless of the technological advances we've made. I don't personally care about graphics I only care about the gameplay. I actually really liked this game called Crawl which is on steam but only supports local multiplayer. One of my projects is going to be building an arcade machine of it.
I really wanted Inindo to be good. Really, really wanted it to. It had so much potential.
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@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Grinding seems to be what most games on mobile devices are these days - Just not my thing.
Angry Birds was cool because it was about a single mission trying to do the thing. But walking all over a map to collect info to then assemble a puzzle - yeah I think I just put my finger on it.
I don't care for games that have a long term goal, nor do I care for twitch games (FPS).
Same here. I'm a GTA kind of player. Give me a gun, a car, and a target. Hunt around a map and talk to people to find a hidden key? Screw that. Imma blow some stuff up!
I hate shooters and twitch games. Just not my style at all. I am a huge JRPG style play or a RTS.
Company of Heroes fan by chance?
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@Kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre A link to the past was fantastic.
Have you played counterpart games of the era? Do you feel that it is fantastic compared to what else there was on the same technology like Secret of Mana or Chrono Trigger?
Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger are two of the best RPG's ever but I don't compare every game to the best games of all time. A game can still be good without being the best
Yes, but they were contemporaries on the same platform. If you aren't comparing it against the good games of the era, what do you compare against to call it a fantastic game? Or are you saying that the entire era was pretty much amazing? I'm not saying that it was the worst of the era, but it was in an era with some pretty amazing competition. What titles do you feel it was better than, for example?
There's a lot of crappy games for the SNES that came out in 1991. Inindo: Way of the Ninja is one example, but there are a lot of them. I can't think of a game that has come out in the past decade that I can honestly say is better than either Chrono Trigger or Secret of Mana though regardless of the technological advances we've made. I don't personally care about graphics I only care about the gameplay. I actually really liked this game called Crawl which is on steam but only supports local multiplayer. One of my projects is going to be building an arcade machine of it.
I really wanted Inindo to be good. Really, really wanted it to. It had so much potential.
I loved fire n' ice for the SNES
I was obsessed with that game growing up -
I just read this small article about the Sunk Cost Fallacy. Dinner For Schmucks made an appearance in the article.
Figured I'd post it for reference if anyone else ever finds them selves being stupid.
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@DustinB3403 Interesting. I can't think of anything I applied this train of thought to
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@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 Interesting. I can't think of anything I applied this train of thought to
Which means you likely are in the sunk cost fallacy a lot.
A simple example is you have a server that is nothing but trouble, so you keep trying to fix the issue when the simple solution is to just reinstall or replace the hardware.
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 Interesting. I can't think of anything I applied this train of thought to
Which means you likely are in the sunk cost fallacy a lot.
A simple example is you have a server that is nothing but trouble, so you keep trying to fix the issue when the simple solution is to just reinstall or replace the hardware.
I can see what you mean
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 Interesting. I can't think of anything I applied this train of thought to
Which means you likely are in the sunk cost fallacy a lot.
A simple example is you have a server that is nothing but trouble, so you keep trying to fix the issue when the simple solution is to just reinstall or replace the hardware.
Ug - we have this problem with our building HVAC. it's been having issue for 10+ years... we've been through at least 3 vendors - and according to my boss, not one of them has said we should just replace it.
Of course they don't say that because it's not in their best interest - they don't keep getting to bilk us for repair work.
Getting out of Sunk Cost Fallacy requires you to do it to yourself.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 Interesting. I can't think of anything I applied this train of thought to
Which means you likely are in the sunk cost fallacy a lot.
A simple example is you have a server that is nothing but trouble, so you keep trying to fix the issue when the simple solution is to just reinstall or replace the hardware.
Ug - we have this problem with our building HVAC. it's been having issue for 10+ years... we've been through at least 3 vendors - and according to my boss, not one of them has said we should just replace it.
Of course they don't say that because it's not in their best interest - they don't keep getting to bilk us for repair work.
Getting out of Sunk Cost Fallacy requires you to do it to yourself.
In my position I'm managing someones elses hardware so I can't make those types of decisions unfortunately. They have the last word.
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@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 Interesting. I can't think of anything I applied this train of thought to
Which means you likely are in the sunk cost fallacy a lot.
A simple example is you have a server that is nothing but trouble, so you keep trying to fix the issue when the simple solution is to just reinstall or replace the hardware.
Ug - we have this problem with our building HVAC. it's been having issue for 10+ years... we've been through at least 3 vendors - and according to my boss, not one of them has said we should just replace it.
Of course they don't say that because it's not in their best interest - they don't keep getting to bilk us for repair work.
Getting out of Sunk Cost Fallacy requires you to do it to yourself.
In my position I'm managing someones elses hardware so I can't make those types of decisions unfortunately. They have the last word.
In that case, they are in a sunk cost fallacy, if you are recommending they replace it, and they don't. Then you bill them to support it, it is their issue, and not yours.
