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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @pchiodo said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @dafyre @JaredBusch

      I would argue that deploying a single processor server in a production environment is not a best practice. And it appears MS is thinking the same way. With Server 2012, licensing was per processor, but with 2016 it is per core with an 8 core minimum.

      8 core min per processor. 16 core min per physical server.

      Which means you could purchase a server with a single processor and only 8 cores (you'd be insane too) and have to purchase licensing for the 8/16 minimums.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @pchiodo
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        @pchiodo said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @dafyre @JaredBusch

        I would argue that deploying a single processor server in a production environment is not a best practice. And it appears MS is thinking the same way. With Server 2012, licensing was per processor, but with 2016 it is per core with an 8 core minimum.

        Why not? The procs aren't redundant until you get into enterprise RAS features in the $50K or higher server range. So you actually take on more risk, rather than less, with two procs because there is more to fail. And dual procs are less efficient than one (about 1% less.) So unless you are using the cores, it's not to your benefit. It raises the cost of hardware and raises software overhead and increases risk.

        That's why vendors like IBM, Oracle, Fujitsu and Scale all target single proc space heavily - the dual proc thing is partially a vestige of the "low CPU power" era combined with legacy Microsoft licensing that arose from that era. If you are on UNIX, whether entry level servers or massive RISC systems, single proc boxes are the go to systems until you need more power than a single proc can provide and in the RISC space that's way, way bigger than two Intel procs in the SMB space.

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        • Minion QueenM
          Minion Queen
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          http://deadspin.com/bill-belichick-is-sick-of-those-stupid-microsoft-tablet-1787931452?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow HA HA HA HA HA HA

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @dafyre
            last edited by

            @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            Reading this thread. Hoping people actually do switch to Linux over this. What actually happens remains to be seen.

            That thread said there was a two processor minimum. But when I was reading the licensing do use an example of a 2 x 8 processor system but no where did I see it specifically say you had to license to processors if you only have one

            All the stuff I've read said licensing is the number of cores was all that mattered.

            I think that this is true. This will actually push the sixteen core single proc systems I would guess.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
              last edited by

              @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              Reading this thread. Hoping people actually do switch to Linux over this. What actually happens remains to be seen.

              That thread said there was a two processor minimum. But when I was reading the licensing do use an example of a 2 x 8 processor system but no where did I see it specifically say you had to license to processors if you only have one

              Yeah, they've been very unclear on that. If so, it will put AMD back on the map, but only for the single proc, 16 core use case.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                I wonder if AMD will decide to exist the space, focus on UNIX or whip out some crazy hyperthreading technology that will make Intel sorry that they went down this path. Those are the three options that I see here. If AMD worked with Oracle, they could make a proc that did some pretty amazing threading. Intel is actually second to last (AMD being last) in hyperthreading performance. It's IBM and Oracle that know hyperthreading.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  I wonder if AMD will decide to exist the space, focus on UNIX or whip out some crazy hyperthreading technology that will make Intel sorry that they went down this path. Those are the three options that I see here. If AMD worked with Oracle, they could make a proc that did some pretty amazing threading. Intel is actually second to last (AMD being last) in hyperthreading performance. It's IBM and Oracle that know hyperthreading.

                  Would AMD do that? They weren't too far away from being on the brink of bankruptcy just a few years ago. I'd be surprised if Oracle or IBM would be interested in a partnership at this point.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @coliver
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                    @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    I wonder if AMD will decide to exist the space, focus on UNIX or whip out some crazy hyperthreading technology that will make Intel sorry that they went down this path. Those are the three options that I see here. If AMD worked with Oracle, they could make a proc that did some pretty amazing threading. Intel is actually second to last (AMD being last) in hyperthreading performance. It's IBM and Oracle that know hyperthreading.

                    Would AMD do that? They weren't too far away from being on the brink of bankruptcy just a few years ago. I'd be surprised if Oracle or IBM would be interested in a partnership at this point.

                    Why would AMD being on the "brink" be of any actual concern to IBM or Oracle? That seems to be an odd thing for them to care about, especially if it was years ago. I don't see the relevance.

                    Would AMD? They've already turned to ARM and are leaving the AMD64 space in many areas. If they want to compete in the Intel/Microsoft world of AMD64 platforms they need to do something. Either get out completely or hit back with something amazing.

                    As AMD is one of the big RISC vendors now along with IBM and Oracle, it would make sense for them to work together.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver
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                      • thwrT
                        thwr
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                        Trying to figure out why the f*ck my wife's Android based ebook reader (rebranded Boyue T62+) can't see wifi networks anymore.

                        Hardware looks good so far, my first thought was a disconnected antenna:

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                        Stopped working just a few hours ago, without any firmware update or changes to my wifi.

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                        • thwrT
                          thwr @thwr
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                          @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          Trying to figure out why the f*ck my wife's Android based ebook reader (rebranded Boyue T62+) can't see wifi networks anymore.

                          Hardware looks good so far, my first thought was a disconnected antenna:

                          0_1476892175231_DSC_0104.JPG

                          Stopped working just a few hours ago, without any firmware update or changes to my wifi.

                          Interesting log (via Android Debug Bridge):

                          0_1476894142776_upload-64ef8245-3bea-4bec-a115-00b47bd3633e

                          Guess I will need to dig a bit deeper

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                          • gjacobseG
                            gjacobse @thwr
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                            @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            Trying to figure out why the f*ck my wife's Android based ebook reader (rebranded Boyue T62+) can't see wifi networks anymore.

                            Hardware looks good so far, my first thought was a disconnected antenna:

                            0_1476892175231_DSC_0104.JPG

                            Stopped working just a few hours ago, without any firmware update or changes to my wifi.

                            Interesting log (via Android Debug Bridge):

                            Guess I will need to dig a bit deeper

                            Here let me help you with that.

                            maxresdefault.jpg

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                            • RojoLocoR
                              RojoLoco
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                              Just got tickets for next week's RiffTrax live event... The 1962 classic "Carnival of Souls", live riffed by the MST3K guys (Mike, Bill, and Corbett). Their live shows are always side-splitting.

                              http://www.rifftrax.com/live

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                Doing some UNIX management today.

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                                • Reid CooperR
                                  Reid Cooper
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                                  I need more coffee. It's been a sleepy day.

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                                  • RojoLocoR
                                    RojoLoco @gjacobse
                                    last edited by RojoLoco

                                    @gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    Trying to figure out why the f*ck my wife's Android based ebook reader (rebranded Boyue T62+) can't see wifi networks anymore.

                                    Hardware looks good so far, my first thought was a disconnected antenna:

                                    0_1476892175231_DSC_0104.JPG

                                    Stopped working just a few hours ago, without any firmware update or changes to my wifi.

                                    Interesting log (via Android Debug Bridge):

                                    Guess I will need to dig a bit deeper

                                    Here let me help you with that.

                                    maxresdefault.jpg

                                    iPad? Use a bigger hammer and tap much, much harder. Then provide me with your banking info and I'll gladly siphon off the annual iCrap charge you've been paying to apple... that way you won't notice anything different. Hundreds upon hundreds of dollars will be taken from you every year, but you'll continue to get nothing for it. Just like buying into the new iHype every time it comes out.

                                    You're welcome.

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                                    • thwrT
                                      thwr
                                      last edited by

                                      Just found a little gem on Netflix:

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                                      • RojoLocoR
                                        RojoLoco @thwr
                                        last edited by

                                        @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        Just found a little gem on Netflix:

                                        0_1476906885458_upload-c4781aff-3742-492f-85bf-f6214bf4cf07

                                        I sincerely hope you've seen Kung Fury....

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                                        • thwrT
                                          thwr @RojoLoco
                                          last edited by

                                          @RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          Just found a little gem on Netflix:

                                          0_1476906885458_upload-c4781aff-3742-492f-85bf-f6214bf4cf07

                                          I sincerely hope you've seen Kung Fury....

                                          On my list, but I wasn't "brave" enough to try it yet 😉

                                          BTW: https://worldfilmgeek.com/2015/07/21/thoughts-kung-pow-ii-is-finally-happening/

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                                          • RojoLocoR
                                            RojoLoco @thwr
                                            last edited by

                                            @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            Just found a little gem on Netflix:

                                            0_1476906885458_upload-c4781aff-3742-492f-85bf-f6214bf4cf07

                                            I sincerely hope you've seen Kung Fury....

                                            On my list, but I wasn't "brave" enough to try it yet 😉

                                            BTW: https://worldfilmgeek.com/2015/07/21/thoughts-kung-pow-ii-is-finally-happening/

                                            I'm all for a Kung Pow sequel... I love campy, cheesy movies.

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