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    • scottalanmiller
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      • coliver
        coliver @thanksajdotcom last edited by

        @thanksajdotcom said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @thanksajdotcom said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        Getting told to install an agent for what I believe is a compliance audit on five machines. Proxy server blocks access to the given links from the users' machines...FML...

        Complaince Audit: Fail.

        Security Audit: Win?

        Not really. Facebook, etc are all still accesible.

        Is Facebook in the security policy?

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        • wirestyle22
          wirestyle22 last edited by

          Today has been...interesting.

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          • jt1001001
            jt1001001 @coliver last edited by

            @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            My site on [email protected] came up again after 9 months of outage with no way to recover. Although now it goes down every 8 minutes exactly and comes up 3 minutes later. Almost preferred the full outage.

            Wondering if I should waste my time spinning up a test freepbx box at cloudatcost as I have unused servers there? Granted its testing/learning only so don't care if they suddenly go belly up on me

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            • dafyre
              dafyre @wirestyle22 last edited by

              @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              Today has been...interesting.

              How so? ... and Interesting good... or interesting Bad?

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              • StrongBad
                StrongBad @wirestyle22 last edited by

                @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                Today has been...interesting.

                Now we have to know!

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                • wirestyle22
                  wirestyle22 @dafyre last edited by

                  @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  Today has been...interesting.

                  How so? ... and Interesting good... or interesting Bad?

                  I've just been running around like a nut. It's been wild. Tomorrow I have to find every phone line in the entire place and check to see if all of the devices are capable of T.38 -- If so we are going to save a ton of money.

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                  • wirestyle22
                    wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @wirestyle22

                    If performance is your guide, KVM has the best Windows performance. And Xen has the best Linux performance.

                    If ease of use is your guide, many of us find XenServer to be the easiest to learn (after VMware which is mostly only easy by not having any features.) Hyper-V is confusing enough that many people can get XS installed and working before they can even figure out what Hyper-V is 😉 But people used to the MS ecosystem thoroughly sometimes find it easier to use because they are already using many of the Windows remote management tools, but tons of Windows Admins don't do that making Hyper-V rather confusing again.

                    If features is your guide, XenServer and Hyper-V top the list for sure. Massive feature sets, all for free. KVM comes it right behind them. VMware isn't in the game there, unless you have insanely deep pockets.

                    I'm only exposed to a certain percentage of the overall posts. I guess I just saw a lot of love for Hyper-V /shrug

                    Guess I'm installing XenServer 😄

                    I don't know if anyone that uses hyper-v here LOVES it - it's just not terrible. It's vanilla ice cream. The Ford Crown Victoria of automobiles.

                    It's actually pretty good. Lots of usable features and a decent interface if you're a Windows Admin. A solid choice and very close second place behind Xen/XenServer. With every iteration Powershell is becoming more and more usable.

                    @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @wirestyle22

                    If performance is your guide, KVM has the best Windows performance. And Xen has the best Linux performance.

                    If ease of use is your guide, many of us find XenServer to be the easiest to learn (after VMware which is mostly only easy by not having any features.) Hyper-V is confusing enough that many people can get XS installed and working before they can even figure out what Hyper-V is 😉 But people used to the MS ecosystem thoroughly sometimes find it easier to use because they are already using many of the Windows remote management tools, but tons of Windows Admins don't do that making Hyper-V rather confusing again.

                    If features is your guide, XenServer and Hyper-V top the list for sure. Massive feature sets, all for free. KVM comes it right behind them. VMware isn't in the game there, unless you have insanely deep pockets.

                    I'm only exposed to a certain percentage of the overall posts. I guess I just saw a lot of love for Hyper-V /shrug

                    Guess I'm installing XenServer 😄

                    I don't know if anyone that uses hyper-v here LOVES it - it's just not terrible. It's vanilla ice cream. The Ford Crown Victoria of automobiles.

                    It's actually pretty good. Lots of usable features and a decent interface if you're a Windows Admin. A solid choice and very close second place behind Xen/XenServer. With every iteration Powershell is becoming more and more usable.

                    If you consider PS for administration as making Hyper-V usable, XenServer benefits from both BASH/SSH options and the XAPI API.

                    Agreed, but just because BASH and SSH are fantastic doesn't mean Powershell is awful the two aren't mutually exclusive. I was pointing out how Powershell is now becoming much more usable with every update then it was in the 2008 era.

                    No, but with BASH/SSH being easier, faster and more manageable than PS (debatable) it has an advantage there alone. With cross platform support (important for a platform) it gains a big one. And then XAPI takes it to another level entirely.

                    I was recommended Fish or ZSH by a friend. Opinions?

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                    • scottalanmiller
                      scottalanmiller @wirestyle22 last edited by

                      @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @wirestyle22

                      If performance is your guide, KVM has the best Windows performance. And Xen has the best Linux performance.

                      If ease of use is your guide, many of us find XenServer to be the easiest to learn (after VMware which is mostly only easy by not having any features.) Hyper-V is confusing enough that many people can get XS installed and working before they can even figure out what Hyper-V is 😉 But people used to the MS ecosystem thoroughly sometimes find it easier to use because they are already using many of the Windows remote management tools, but tons of Windows Admins don't do that making Hyper-V rather confusing again.

                      If features is your guide, XenServer and Hyper-V top the list for sure. Massive feature sets, all for free. KVM comes it right behind them. VMware isn't in the game there, unless you have insanely deep pockets.

                      I'm only exposed to a certain percentage of the overall posts. I guess I just saw a lot of love for Hyper-V /shrug

                      Guess I'm installing XenServer 😄

                      I don't know if anyone that uses hyper-v here LOVES it - it's just not terrible. It's vanilla ice cream. The Ford Crown Victoria of automobiles.

                      It's actually pretty good. Lots of usable features and a decent interface if you're a Windows Admin. A solid choice and very close second place behind Xen/XenServer. With every iteration Powershell is becoming more and more usable.

                      @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @wirestyle22

                      If performance is your guide, KVM has the best Windows performance. And Xen has the best Linux performance.

                      If ease of use is your guide, many of us find XenServer to be the easiest to learn (after VMware which is mostly only easy by not having any features.) Hyper-V is confusing enough that many people can get XS installed and working before they can even figure out what Hyper-V is 😉 But people used to the MS ecosystem thoroughly sometimes find it easier to use because they are already using many of the Windows remote management tools, but tons of Windows Admins don't do that making Hyper-V rather confusing again.

                      If features is your guide, XenServer and Hyper-V top the list for sure. Massive feature sets, all for free. KVM comes it right behind them. VMware isn't in the game there, unless you have insanely deep pockets.

                      I'm only exposed to a certain percentage of the overall posts. I guess I just saw a lot of love for Hyper-V /shrug

                      Guess I'm installing XenServer 😄

                      I don't know if anyone that uses hyper-v here LOVES it - it's just not terrible. It's vanilla ice cream. The Ford Crown Victoria of automobiles.

                      It's actually pretty good. Lots of usable features and a decent interface if you're a Windows Admin. A solid choice and very close second place behind Xen/XenServer. With every iteration Powershell is becoming more and more usable.

                      If you consider PS for administration as making Hyper-V usable, XenServer benefits from both BASH/SSH options and the XAPI API.

                      Agreed, but just because BASH and SSH are fantastic doesn't mean Powershell is awful the two aren't mutually exclusive. I was pointing out how Powershell is now becoming much more usable with every update then it was in the 2008 era.

                      No, but with BASH/SSH being easier, faster and more manageable than PS (debatable) it has an advantage there alone. With cross platform support (important for a platform) it gains a big one. And then XAPI takes it to another level entirely.

                      I was recommended Fish or ZSH by a friend. Opinions?

                      Well you know my opinion...

                      https://mangolassi.it/topic/8013/system-administration-on-using-bash-vi-and-no-aliases

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                      • dafyre
                        dafyre @wirestyle22 last edited by

                        @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        Today has been...interesting.

                        How so? ... and Interesting good... or interesting Bad?

                        I've just been running around like a nut. It's been wild. Tomorrow I have to find every phone line in the entire place and check to see if all of the devices are capable of T.38 -- If so we are going to save a ton of money.

                        Saving a ton of money is nice... but isn't T.38 for faxing?

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                        • wirestyle22
                          wirestyle22 @dafyre last edited by wirestyle22

                          @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          Today has been...interesting.

                          How so? ... and Interesting good... or interesting Bad?

                          I've just been running around like a nut. It's been wild. Tomorrow I have to find every phone line in the entire place and check to see if all of the devices are capable of T.38 -- If so we are going to save a ton of money.

                          Saving a ton of money is nice... but isn't T.38 for faxing?

                          Faxing over voip. Yup.

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                          • scottalanmiller
                            scottalanmiller @dafyre last edited by

                            @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            Today has been...interesting.

                            How so? ... and Interesting good... or interesting Bad?

                            I've just been running around like a nut. It's been wild. Tomorrow I have to find every phone line in the entire place and check to see if all of the devices are capable of T.38 -- If so we are going to save a ton of money.

                            Saving a ton of money is nice... but isn't T.38 for faxing?

                            Yes it is.

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                            • scottalanmiller
                              scottalanmiller @wirestyle22 last edited by

                              @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              Today has been...interesting.

                              How so? ... and Interesting good... or interesting Bad?

                              I've just been running around like a nut. It's been wild. Tomorrow I have to find every phone line in the entire place and check to see if all of the devices are capable of T.38 -- If so we are going to save a ton of money.

                              Saving a ton of money is nice... but isn't T.38 for faxing?

                              Faxing over voip. Yup.

                              No, Faxing over IP. FoIP. There is no voice when faxing.

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                              • wirestyle22
                                wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                Today has been...interesting.

                                How so? ... and Interesting good... or interesting Bad?

                                I've just been running around like a nut. It's been wild. Tomorrow I have to find every phone line in the entire place and check to see if all of the devices are capable of T.38 -- If so we are going to save a ton of money.

                                Saving a ton of money is nice... but isn't T.38 for faxing?

                                Faxing over voip. Yup.

                                No, Faxing over IP. FoIP. There is no voice when faxing.

                                That's what I meant. Sorry!

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                                • DustinB3403
                                  DustinB3403 @wirestyle22 last edited by

                                  @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  Today has been...interesting.

                                  How so? ... and Interesting good... or interesting Bad?

                                  I've just been running around like a nut. It's been wild. Tomorrow I have to find every phone line in the entire place and check to see if all of the devices are capable of T.38 -- If so we are going to save a ton of money.

                                  Saving a ton of money is nice... but isn't T.38 for faxing?

                                  Faxing over voip. Yup.

                                  No, Faxing over IP. FoIP. There is no voice when faxing.

                                  That's what I meant. Sorry!

                                  Good I thought you were going to replace all of the phones in the office with faxes and make everyone, fax EVERYTHING, forever and more.

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                                  • coliver
                                    coliver last edited by

                                    Is T.38 reliable?

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                                    • scottalanmiller
                                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403 last edited by

                                      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      Today has been...interesting.

                                      How so? ... and Interesting good... or interesting Bad?

                                      I've just been running around like a nut. It's been wild. Tomorrow I have to find every phone line in the entire place and check to see if all of the devices are capable of T.38 -- If so we are going to save a ton of money.

                                      Saving a ton of money is nice... but isn't T.38 for faxing?

                                      Faxing over voip. Yup.

                                      No, Faxing over IP. FoIP. There is no voice when faxing.

                                      That's what I meant. Sorry!

                                      Good I thought you were going to replace all of the phones in the office with faxes and make everyone, fax EVERYTHING, forever and more.

                                      FoVoIP would be someone mapping a fax onto graph paper then having two people call each other on VoIP and read graph paper coordinates manually to each other to say if that pixel was on or off. Would be a fun experiment.

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                                      • jt1001001
                                        jt1001001 last edited by

                                        My morning ugh fax conversation went in the direct of T.38 and Xmedius. See what direction it really ends up

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                                        • scottalanmiller
                                          scottalanmiller @coliver last edited by

                                          @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          Is T.38 reliable?

                                          It's not horrible. Faxing is conceptually unreliable. T.38 is the most reliable means of doing faxing in the digital world. Since fax is an analogue process, there can never be a totally reliable digital replacement.

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                                          • coliver
                                            coliver @scottalanmiller last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            Is T.38 reliable?

                                            It's not horrible. Faxing is conceptually unreliable. T.38 is the most reliable means of doing faxing in the digital world. Since fax is an analogue process, there can never be a totally reliable digital replacement.

                                            That's what I was wondering. We do faxing over T.38 here via a fax server. Haven't had any issues but from everything I've read the success rate is ~95%.

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