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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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      @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      Is this the best choice if I want to run both Linux and Windows VM's?

      Define best choice? You tack this on at the end of a question about PV drivers; so I am guessing that you are reading way too much into "Hyper-V is just like everyone else."

      That Hyper-V doesn't significantly lag here isn't a selling point. It's not a caveat either. It's just "doing the same thing as everyone else." Nothing wrong with that, but hardly a reason to jump to "best choice."

      Hyper-V is one of the four possible choices and one of the three that give you unlimited use for free. Beyond that, defining your goals and measures of success is needed. Nothing you've stated would be a factor in determining if Hyper-V would be a good choice for you.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @wirestyle22
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        @wirestyle22 said

        ML seems to prefer Hyper-V. What is the reasoning for the preference if they are all the same?

        Do they?

        I kind of got the feel they like XenServer.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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          @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          ML seems to prefer Hyper-V. What is the reasoning for the preference if they are all the same?

          It does? A few people do. It's definitely not disliked. But I think you'll find that the number of people using and promoting, and the number of threads about, and the number of vendors supporting Xen and XenServer is like 10:1 over Hyper-V. And KVM gets a bit of love as well.

          Hyper-V might easily be third or fourth in popularity around here. I might be wrong, I'm just going by what I remember seeing. But I think that is MS was looking at the site they'd feel very differently than you do.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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            @BRRABill said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            I kind of got the feel they like XenServer.

            That's my feeling, for deploying your own hypervisor I'd say that Xen has so much attention and mind share here that it is almost a problem, we've become a Xen proxy support community making it a bit unwelcoming to people on other platforms. Not that I would like to see fewer Xen posts, but I'd like to see more non-Xen posts, you know?

            And KVM gets a huge amount of love because they are both baked into most Linux as well as the basis for products like Scale that gets a lot of attention.

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            • RojoLocoR
              RojoLoco
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              I love my Pandora shuffle... sometimes it goes from Pink Floyd to Meshuggah to Eek-A-Mouse, and that makes me smile.

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said

                That's my feeling, for deploying your own hypervisor I'd say that Xen has so much attention and mind share here that it is almost a problem, we've become a Xen proxy support community making it a bit unwelcoming to people on other platforms. Not that I would like to see fewer Xen posts, but I'd like to see more non-Xen posts, you know?

                I'd actually like to see some of those XS experts from their forum pop over here. To tidy up all the little things we can't figure out on our own.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                  @wirestyle22

                  If performance is your guide, KVM has the best Windows performance. And Xen has the best Linux performance.

                  If ease of use is your guide, many of us find XenServer to be the easiest to learn (after VMware which is mostly only easy by not having any features.) Hyper-V is confusing enough that many people can get XS installed and working before they can even figure out what Hyper-V is 😉 But people used to the MS ecosystem thoroughly sometimes find it easier to use because they are already using many of the Windows remote management tools, but tons of Windows Admins don't do that making Hyper-V rather confusing again.

                  If features is your guide, XenServer and Hyper-V top the list for sure. Massive feature sets, all for free. KVM comes it right behind them. VMware isn't in the game there, unless you have insanely deep pockets.

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @RojoLoco
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                    @RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    I love my Pandora shuffle... sometimes it goes from Pink Floyd to Meshuggah to Eek-A-Mouse, and that makes me smile.

                    It's amazing how much music is out there, and how online music has opened my eyes to it.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                      @BRRABill said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      I'd actually like to see some of those XS experts from their forum pop over here. To tidy up all the little things we can't figure out on our own.

                      Are there really XS questions, or just general questions that are being run into when using XS?

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                      • AdaministratorA
                        Adaministrator @RojoLoco
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                        @RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        I love my Pandora shuffle... sometimes it goes from Pink Floyd to Meshuggah to Eek-A-Mouse, and that makes me smile.

                        No Pandora in Germany.... 😞

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                        • RojoLocoR
                          RojoLoco @Adaministrator
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                          @Adaministrator said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          I love my Pandora shuffle... sometimes it goes from Pink Floyd to Meshuggah to Eek-A-Mouse, and that makes me smile.

                          No Pandora in Germany.... 😞

                          Really? That's lame. What other streaming music services are available over there?

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                          • AdaministratorA
                            Adaministrator @RojoLoco
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                            @RojoLoco said in >

                            Really? That's lame. What other streaming music services are available over there?

                            I have a streamtome setup on my home server... 😉

                            Otherwise spotify and amazon seem to be ok. Pandora just seems to be the better platform.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said

                              Are there really XS questions, or just general questions that are being run into when using XS?

                              What is the difference between those two?

                              Under which category would you classify the question:
                              "Can you store other data in a SR?"

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                              • RojoLocoR
                                RojoLoco @Adaministrator
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                                @Adaministrator said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @RojoLoco said in >

                                Really? That's lame. What other streaming music services are available over there?

                                I have a streamtome setup on my home server... 😉

                                Otherwise spotify and amazon seem to be ok. Pandora just seems to be the better platform.

                                I haven't played with Spotify much, but the shuffle feature on Amazon leaves much to be desired. I wish I had my music collection organized enough to set up something to stream it.

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                                • KellyK
                                  Kelly
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                                  I feel like I'm drowning in CVEs. It seems like there are a plethora of new ones announced every day.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                    @BRRABill said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    Under which category would you classify the question:
                                    "Can you store other data in a SR?"

                                    That's definitely an XS question. But cloning the boot device, is not.

                                    It might be that no one knows about storing other data in the SR because it's not a good practice regardless. Sometimes experts know the least about fringe cases because they simply know to avoid them 😉

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said

                                      It might be that no one knows about storing other data in the SR because it's not a good practice regardless. Sometimes experts know the least about fringe cases because they simply know to avoid them 😉

                                      Yeah I would bet single hosts with one storage array are a pretty fringe case.

                                      They look at my questions, chuckle, and move on.

                                      Like a lot of my posts here! 😉

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                        @BRRABill said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @scottalanmiller said

                                        It might be that no one knows about storing other data in the SR because it's not a good practice regardless. Sometimes experts know the least about fringe cases because they simply know to avoid them 😉

                                        Yeah I would bet single hosts with one storage array are a pretty fringe case.

                                        They look at my questions, chuckle, and move on.

                                        Like a lot of my posts here! 😉

                                        No, it's only making one volume on the single storage array that is uncommon. Putting additional items into the SR is what is niche.

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said

                                          No, it's only making one volume on the single storage array that is uncommon. Putting additional items into the SR is what is niche.

                                          I mean that most installations are probably larger.

                                          As to the volume, XS does that on it's own. If I was doing this again, I'd probably skip making the SR at installation, and then do it myself.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                            @BRRABill said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @scottalanmiller said

                                            No, it's only making one volume on the single storage array that is uncommon. Putting additional items into the SR is what is niche.

                                            I mean that most installations are probably larger.

                                            I would personally doubt that to be true. Maybe most installations on a computer by computer bases are at larger shops (meaning a single shop with 101 XS servers counts as more than 100 companies each with 1 XS install) but by organizational deployments, I bet that single servers are the most common.

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