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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @coliver
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      @coliver said:

      Ugh... I know it hasn't hurt you but I wouldn't drink raw milk after my experience with the dairy industry.

      Getting it raw would bypass those issues, though 🙂

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      • coliverC
        coliver @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @coliver said:

        Ugh... I know it hasn't hurt you but I wouldn't drink raw milk after my experience with the dairy industry.

        Getting it raw would bypass those issues, though 🙂

        No... it really wouldn't...

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        • dafyreD
          dafyre @coliver
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          @coliver said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @coliver said:

          Ugh... I know it hasn't hurt you but I wouldn't drink raw milk after my experience with the dairy industry.

          Getting it raw would bypass those issues, though 🙂

          No... it really wouldn't...

          You have to get it from a place that actually raises the cows and doesn't cram as many of them as they can into tiny stalls. The place we got our milk from had some friendly cows, lol.

          I'm looking for a place in middle Georgia to get some. Don't feel like driving 4 hours one way for milk.

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @dafyre
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            @dafyre said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @coliver said:

            @scottalanmiller Is it the "ball jar + butter cream + shaking vigorously = butter" experiment?

            Yup. With like a full litre of cream.

            Full Litre of cream = milk from the cow, rather than all this specially processed junk we have in the US?

            (In Georgia, I can actually find raw milk, but it is sold "for pet consumption only"... never hurt us before)

            I've actually heard of a legal way you can get raw milk in the US. Someone that uses our products runs a farm, but instead of selling the end product (milk in this case), they sell a share of the cow. So if you pay for 10% of a cow, you'll get 10% of the milk. And it's your milk, from a cow that you own. You're responsible for what happens to said milk after that.

            I was kinda sad when my grandparents started pasteurizing the milk they got from the family farm. At least it wasn't homogenized as well. Of course getting an adult to actually process milk properly no matter what state it's in is a whole other topic.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
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              I'm trying to let my blood pressure settle, scatter-brain employee calls me first this in the morning when I'm not in the office yet, saying "everything is broken" and she's in front of a client in minutes.

              And the fix, she's just being a scatter-brain!

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              • Minion QueenM
                Minion Queen Banned
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                Growing up in Dairy country. I would NEVER drink anything from a large dairy farm. But I do get raw milk from a small farm (10 cows).

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                  @travisdh1 said:

                  I've actually heard of a legal way you can get raw milk in the US. Someone that uses our products runs a farm, but instead of selling the end product (milk in this case), they sell a share of the cow. So if you pay for 10% of a cow, you'll get 10% of the milk. And it's your milk, from a cow that you own. You're responsible for what happens to said milk after that.

                  Yeah... I know lots of people trying that, in NY even that is cracked down on. They are treating milk and coffee much like cocaine.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    In Europe, where raw milk is still legal of course because we aren't crazy, most milk is ultra pasteurized which makes it shelf stable. So milk is rarely sold from a fridge.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      Eating toast with fresh butter now.

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                      • stacksofplatesS
                        stacksofplates
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                        Sending my VM backups to Amazon Cloud Drive.

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                        • dafyreD
                          dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          In Europe, where raw milk is still legal of course because we aren't crazy, most milk is ultra pasteurized which makes it shelf stable. So milk is rarely sold from a fridge.

                          I was just reading up on this, lol. The pasteurization process is good, because it leaves the milk undisturbed, except for killing off some bacteria, if I understand correctly.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                            @dafyre said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            In Europe, where raw milk is still legal of course because we aren't crazy, most milk is ultra pasteurized which makes it shelf stable. So milk is rarely sold from a fridge.

                            I was just reading up on this, lol. The pasteurization process is good, because it leaves the milk undisturbed, except for killing off some bacteria, if I understand correctly.

                            In theory 🙂

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Finally getting around to an ownCloud 9 installation.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @dafyre
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                                @dafyre said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                In Europe, where raw milk is still legal of course because we aren't crazy, most milk is ultra pasteurized which makes it shelf stable. So milk is rarely sold from a fridge.

                                I was just reading up on this, lol. The pasteurization process is good, because it leaves the milk undisturbed, except for killing off some bacteria, if I understand correctly.

                                Some people who drink "organic" milk have told me UHT pasteurization leaves the milk tasting burnt. I rarely drink milk, except on cereal, and I rarely eat organic marketed foods. The only milk that I think tastes good, and that includes milk directly from the cow, is this new Dairy Pure stuff.

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                                • dafyreD
                                  dafyre @coliver
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                                  @coliver said:

                                  @dafyre said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  In Europe, where raw milk is still legal of course because we aren't crazy, most milk is ultra pasteurized which makes it shelf stable. So milk is rarely sold from a fridge.

                                  I was just reading up on this, lol. The pasteurization process is good, because it leaves the milk undisturbed, except for killing off some bacteria, if I understand correctly.

                                  Some people who drink "organic" milk have told me UHT pasteurization leaves the milk tasting burnt. I rarely drink milk, except on cereal, and I rarely eat organic marketed foods. The only milk that I think tastes good, and that includes milk directly from the cow, is this new Dairy Pure stuff.

                                  Dairy Pure isn't bad at all. A store down the road from me sells the small bottles of it. I like the True Moo Whole Milk Chocolate (also from the same store).

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
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                                    Recovering from a crashed XenServer box. 😞

                                    All VMs were off and I was using WinSCP to copy my VM to a backup device.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      What happened to the box?

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        What happened to the box?

                                        I don't know - I haven't looked on Google yet to see if there is a way to pull logs from the SD card (assuming XS wrote anything to it after the crash.

                                        Since the server rebooted upon the crash there was no information on the screen for me to try to troubleshoot.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          What happened to the box?

                                          I don't know - I haven't looked on Google yet to see if there is a way to pull logs from the SD card (assuming XS wrote anything to it after the crash.

                                          Since the server rebooted upon the crash there was no information on the screen for me to try to troubleshoot.

                                          If it didn't boot, it would never have gotten to the point of logging.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            What happened to the box?

                                            I don't know - I haven't looked on Google yet to see if there is a way to pull logs from the SD card (assuming XS wrote anything to it after the crash.

                                            Since the server rebooted upon the crash there was no information on the screen for me to try to troubleshoot.

                                            If it didn't boot, it would never have gotten to the point of logging.

                                            Let's pick this up in my thread. I'd love it if you'd post that again there.

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