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    • stacksofplatesS
      stacksofplates @Dashrender
      last edited by

      @Dashrender said:

      @johnhooks said:

      I'm surprised how well my phone works over ZeroTier to my PBX.

      what kind of phone?

      Nexus 5

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @stacksofplates
        last edited by

        @johnhooks said:

        @Dashrender said:

        @johnhooks said:

        I'm surprised how well my phone works over ZeroTier to my PBX.

        what kind of phone?

        Nexus 5

        How difficult is it to secure an Asterisk based PBX to publish directly to the internet?

        Getting away from the need to use things like ZT or VPNs would be awesome!

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said:

          @johnhooks said:

          @Dashrender said:

          @johnhooks said:

          I'm surprised how well my phone works over ZeroTier to my PBX.

          what kind of phone?

          Nexus 5

          How difficult is it to secure an Asterisk based PBX to publish directly to the internet?

          Getting away from the need to use things like ZT or VPNs would be awesome!

          Depends what degree of security that you want. Port knocking, TLS, IP locking, etc. are available features. For a lot of companies just going to strong passwords will suffice.

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @Dashrender said:

            @johnhooks said:

            @Dashrender said:

            @johnhooks said:

            I'm surprised how well my phone works over ZeroTier to my PBX.

            what kind of phone?

            Nexus 5

            How difficult is it to secure an Asterisk based PBX to publish directly to the internet?

            Getting away from the need to use things like ZT or VPNs would be awesome!

            Depends what degree of security that you want. Port knocking, TLS, IP locking, etc. are available features. For a lot of companies just going to strong passwords will suffice.

            My users get upset when they can't use their simple passwords... 12345, anybody?

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            • coliverC
              coliver @dafyre
              last edited by

              @dafyre said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Dashrender said:

              @johnhooks said:

              @Dashrender said:

              @johnhooks said:

              I'm surprised how well my phone works over ZeroTier to my PBX.

              what kind of phone?

              Nexus 5

              How difficult is it to secure an Asterisk based PBX to publish directly to the internet?

              Getting away from the need to use things like ZT or VPNs would be awesome!

              Depends what degree of security that you want. Port knocking, TLS, IP locking, etc. are available features. For a lot of companies just going to strong passwords will suffice.

              My users get upset when they can't use their simple passwords... 12345, anybody?

              Wouldn't this be between the "handset" and the PBX though? Kind of a set once and forget it kind of thing.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @Dashrender said:

                @johnhooks said:

                @Dashrender said:

                @johnhooks said:

                I'm surprised how well my phone works over ZeroTier to my PBX.

                what kind of phone?

                Nexus 5

                How difficult is it to secure an Asterisk based PBX to publish directly to the internet?

                Getting away from the need to use things like ZT or VPNs would be awesome!

                Depends what degree of security that you want. Port knocking, TLS, IP locking, etc. are available features. For a lot of companies just going to strong passwords will suffice.

                Strong passwords are fine - I basically don't want random hackers (ok ANY hackers) using my PBX to make expensive calls.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @johnhooks said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @johnhooks said:

                  I'm surprised how well my phone works over ZeroTier to my PBX.

                  what kind of phone?

                  Nexus 5

                  How difficult is it to secure an Asterisk based PBX to publish directly to the internet?

                  Getting away from the need to use things like ZT or VPNs would be awesome!

                  Depends what degree of security that you want. Port knocking, TLS, IP locking, etc. are available features. For a lot of companies just going to strong passwords will suffice.

                  Strong passwords are fine - I basically don't want random hackers (ok ANY hackers) using my PBX to make expensive calls.

                  Fail2Ban can work on SIP connections. That would help a lot.

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                  • gjacobseG
                    gjacobse
                    last edited by

                    So picked up the old firewall I put in at my previous office. It ran on a Dell PE 2900 1U box. They retired it this month.

                    So now I have a driveless box here I'm wondering what to do with. I only had / have $100 in it,.. but if I use it now, I'll have to find drives.

                    My brother suggested a NAS - but @scottalanmiller and I have talked about this in detail, and I plan to do a build out of a 4 bay ReadyNAS.

                    Is my data worth that much - why yes... yes it is. Photos and such, and then I can maybe pull backups from my Dad as well.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @gjacobse
                      last edited by

                      @gjacobse said:

                      So picked up the old firewall I put in at my previous office. It ran on a Dell PE 2900 1U box. They retired it this month.

                      So now I have a driveless box here I'm wondering what to do with. I only had / have $100 in it,.. but if I use it now, I'll have to find drives.

                      My brother suggested a NAS - but @scottalanmiller and I have talked about this in detail, and I plan to do a build out of a 4 bay ReadyNAS.

                      Is my data worth that much - why yes... yes it is. Photos and such, and then I can maybe pull backups from my Dad as well.

                      Do you have an offsite backup? I've been uploading all my documents to Amazon Cloud Drive using a fuse mount. It works really well.

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                      • gjacobseG
                        gjacobse @coliver
                        last edited by

                        @coliver
                        Currently no...of sorts.

                        I have GD(x5), OD, Dropbox, and BOX,.. not to mention OC and ODfB..

                        But I don't keep much on them. I might do more with ODfB for the office though.

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @gjacobse
                          last edited by

                          @gjacobse said:

                          @coliver
                          Currently no...of sorts.

                          I have GD(x5), OD, Dropbox, and BOX,.. not to mention OC and ODfB..

                          But I don't keep much on them. I might do more with ODfB for the office though.

                          You can get unlimited photo storage and 5Gb video storage for 6$/year. Or Unlimited everything for $60/year. It is a nice system too.

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                          • stacksofplatesS
                            stacksofplates @coliver
                            last edited by

                            @coliver said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            @johnhooks said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            @johnhooks said:

                            I'm surprised how well my phone works over ZeroTier to my PBX.

                            what kind of phone?

                            Nexus 5

                            How difficult is it to secure an Asterisk based PBX to publish directly to the internet?

                            Getting away from the need to use things like ZT or VPNs would be awesome!

                            Depends what degree of security that you want. Port knocking, TLS, IP locking, etc. are available features. For a lot of companies just going to strong passwords will suffice.

                            Strong passwords are fine - I basically don't want random hackers (ok ANY hackers) using my PBX to make expensive calls.

                            Fail2Ban can work on SIP connections. That would help a lot.

                            Fail2Ban comes with the FreePBX ISO. I typed the password incorrectly on my cell phone twice and was banned. It works really well.

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                            • stacksofplatesS
                              stacksofplates @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @johnhooks said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @johnhooks said:

                              I'm surprised how well my phone works over ZeroTier to my PBX.

                              what kind of phone?

                              Nexus 5

                              How difficult is it to secure an Asterisk based PBX to publish directly to the internet?

                              Getting away from the need to use things like ZT or VPNs would be awesome!

                              I have it running on my home network, that's why I did it this way.

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @gjacobse
                                last edited by

                                @gjacobse said:

                                So picked up the old firewall I put in at my previous office. It ran on a Dell PE 2900 1U box. They retired it this month.

                                So now I have a driveless box here I'm wondering what to do with. I only had / have $100 in it,.. but if I use it now, I'll have to find drives.

                                My brother suggested a NAS - but @scottalanmiller and I have talked about this in detail, and I plan to do a build out of a 4 bay ReadyNAS.

                                Is my data worth that much - why yes... yes it is. Photos and such, and then I can maybe pull backups from my Dad as well.

                                Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?

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                                • wirestyle22W
                                  wirestyle22 @stacksofplates
                                  last edited by wirestyle22

                                  @gjacobse said:

                                  So picked up the old firewall I put in at my previous office. It ran on a Dell PE 2900 1U box. They retired it this month.

                                  So now I have a driveless box here I'm wondering what to do with. I only had / have $100 in it,.. but if I use it now, I'll have to find drives.

                                  My brother suggested a NAS - but @scottalanmiller and I have talked about this in detail, and I plan to do a build out of a 4 bay ReadyNAS.

                                  Is my data worth that much - why yes... yes it is. Photos and such, and then I can maybe pull backups from my Dad as well.

                                  Is hardware raid a necessity or something? You can achieve great results for cheap using Linux with ZFS (Software Raid). I know a lot of people have a lot of opinions on software raid but there is very little overhead with modern processors and it's enterprise level software. One of the beautiful aspects of software raid is you don't have to worry about the firmware of the raid controller you purchased when it dies. A lot of the time they stop manufacturing them which is a headache. At the same point I'm sure SAM has a reason for recommending that. I assume this is going to be a raid 10 with 4 drives.

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                                  • mlnewsM
                                    mlnews @wirestyle22
                                    last edited by

                                    @wirestyle22 said:

                                    Is hardware raid a necessity or something? You can achieve great results for cheap using Linux with ZFS (Software Raid). I know a lot of people have a lot of opinions on software raid but there is very little overhead with modern processors and it's enterprise level software.

                                    No NAS box has hardware RAID. Not aware of a single one on the market for the past decade. It's all MD RAID (Linux software RAID) which is more enterprise, to normal standards, than ZFS, but it is ALL software, no matter what. ZFS is great on Solaris, but on Linux is not native and while it can work okay is pretty weird.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                                      last edited by

                                      @johnhooks said:

                                      Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?

                                      To a business, the big thing is support.

                                      To a consumer, the big thing is "small, cheap chassis." A ReadyNAS is offered in a very nice little desktop unit with hot swap bays. It would be great if someone was making business class little chassis like that that we could build SAM-SD Minis out of, but I have not seen one yet. HP Proliant Micro is a good start, but not ideal for that. Smaller, two bay and ARM based would be really sweet.

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                                      • wirestyle22W
                                        wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by wirestyle22

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @johnhooks said:

                                        Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?

                                        To a business, the big thing is support.

                                        To a consumer, the big thing is "small, cheap chassis." A ReadyNAS is offered in a very nice little desktop unit with hot swap bays. It would be great if someone was making business class little chassis like that that we could build SAM-SD Minis out of, but I have not seen one yet. HP Proliant Micro is a good start, but not ideal for that. Smaller, two bay and ARM based would be really sweet.

                                        This is the best DIY NAS case I've seen but it's not cheap: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IAELTAI/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00IAELTAI&linkCode=as2&tag=diy-nas-20&linkId=FXJXCIGCRY5WCZUT

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                                        • gjacobseG
                                          gjacobse @stacksofplates
                                          last edited by

                                          @johnhooks said:

                                          @gjacobse said:

                                          So picked up the old firewall I put in at my previous office. It ran on a Dell PE 2900 1U box. They retired it this month.

                                          So now I have a driveless box here I'm wondering what to do with. I only had / have $100 in it,.. but if I use it now, I'll have to find drives.

                                          My brother suggested a NAS - but @scottalanmiller and I have talked about this in detail, and I plan to do a build out of a 4 bay ReadyNAS.

                                          Is my data worth that much - why yes... yes it is. Photos and such, and then I can maybe pull backups from my Dad as well.

                                          Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?

                                          The PE 2900 has space for just 2 drives. While that is plenty for some tasks... I just can't fit what I want into that. Plus for the age of the machine,.. It's unlikely I can use 1TB drives in it.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @gjacobse
                                            last edited by

                                            @gjacobse said:

                                            @johnhooks said:

                                            @gjacobse said:

                                            So picked up the old firewall I put in at my previous office. It ran on a Dell PE 2900 1U box. They retired it this month.

                                            So now I have a driveless box here I'm wondering what to do with. I only had / have $100 in it,.. but if I use it now, I'll have to find drives.

                                            My brother suggested a NAS - but @scottalanmiller and I have talked about this in detail, and I plan to do a build out of a 4 bay ReadyNAS.

                                            Is my data worth that much - why yes... yes it is. Photos and such, and then I can maybe pull backups from my Dad as well.

                                            Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?

                                            The PE 2900 has space for just 2 drives. While that is plenty for some tasks... I just can't fit what I want into that. Plus for the age of the machine,.. It's unlikely I can use 1TB drives in it.

                                            Yeah, that's not a little desktop chassis.

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