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    • gjacobseG
      gjacobse @stacksofplates
      last edited by

      @johnhooks said:

      @gjacobse said:

      So picked up the old firewall I put in at my previous office. It ran on a Dell PE 2900 1U box. They retired it this month.

      So now I have a driveless box here I'm wondering what to do with. I only had / have $100 in it,.. but if I use it now, I'll have to find drives.

      My brother suggested a NAS - but @scottalanmiller and I have talked about this in detail, and I plan to do a build out of a 4 bay ReadyNAS.

      Is my data worth that much - why yes... yes it is. Photos and such, and then I can maybe pull backups from my Dad as well.

      Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?

      The PE 2900 has space for just 2 drives. While that is plenty for some tasks... I just can't fit what I want into that. Plus for the age of the machine,.. It's unlikely I can use 1TB drives in it.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @gjacobse
        last edited by

        @gjacobse said:

        @johnhooks said:

        @gjacobse said:

        So picked up the old firewall I put in at my previous office. It ran on a Dell PE 2900 1U box. They retired it this month.

        So now I have a driveless box here I'm wondering what to do with. I only had / have $100 in it,.. but if I use it now, I'll have to find drives.

        My brother suggested a NAS - but @scottalanmiller and I have talked about this in detail, and I plan to do a build out of a 4 bay ReadyNAS.

        Is my data worth that much - why yes... yes it is. Photos and such, and then I can maybe pull backups from my Dad as well.

        Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?

        The PE 2900 has space for just 2 drives. While that is plenty for some tasks... I just can't fit what I want into that. Plus for the age of the machine,.. It's unlikely I can use 1TB drives in it.

        Yeah, that's not a little desktop chassis.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
          last edited by

          @wirestyle22 said:

          This is the best DIY NAS case I've seen but it's not cheap: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IAELTAI/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00IAELTAI&linkCode=as2&tag=diy-nas-20&linkId=FXJXCIGCRY5WCZUT

          That's WAY bigger than you'd want for this. Just a little two bay unit.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            If I am going to put in twelve drives, I want a server chassis.

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            • MattSpellerM
              MattSpeller @wirestyle22
              last edited by

              @wirestyle22 said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @johnhooks said:

              Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?

              To a business, the big thing is support.

              To a consumer, the big thing is "small, cheap chassis." A ReadyNAS is offered in a very nice little desktop unit with hot swap bays. It would be great if someone was making business class little chassis like that that we could build SAM-SD Minis out of, but I have not seen one yet. HP Proliant Micro is a good start, but not ideal for that. Smaller, two bay and ARM based would be really sweet.

              This is the best DIY NAS case I've seen but it's not cheap: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IAELTAI/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00IAELTAI&linkCode=as2&tag=diy-nas-20&linkId=FXJXCIGCRY5WCZUT

              grumbling about the CDN$ intensifies

              Price: $149.99 + $100.04 Shipping & Import Fees Deposit to Canada

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              • coliverC
                coliver @MattSpeller
                last edited by

                @MattSpeller said:

                @wirestyle22 said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @johnhooks said:

                Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?

                To a business, the big thing is support.

                To a consumer, the big thing is "small, cheap chassis." A ReadyNAS is offered in a very nice little desktop unit with hot swap bays. It would be great if someone was making business class little chassis like that that we could build SAM-SD Minis out of, but I have not seen one yet. HP Proliant Micro is a good start, but not ideal for that. Smaller, two bay and ARM based would be really sweet.

                This is the best DIY NAS case I've seen but it's not cheap: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IAELTAI/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00IAELTAI&linkCode=as2&tag=diy-nas-20&linkId=FXJXCIGCRY5WCZUT

                grumbling about the CDN$ intensifies

                Price: $149.99 + $100.04 Shipping & Import Fees Deposit to Canada

                It is beautiful though.

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                • MattSpellerM
                  MattSpeller @coliver
                  last edited by MattSpeller

                  @coliver I want one, just not $250 for a basic computer case want one.

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                  • wirestyle22W
                    wirestyle22 @MattSpeller
                    last edited by

                    @MattSpeller said:

                    @wirestyle22 said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @johnhooks said:

                    Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?

                    To a business, the big thing is support.

                    To a consumer, the big thing is "small, cheap chassis." A ReadyNAS is offered in a very nice little desktop unit with hot swap bays. It would be great if someone was making business class little chassis like that that we could build SAM-SD Minis out of, but I have not seen one yet. HP Proliant Micro is a good start, but not ideal for that. Smaller, two bay and ARM based would be really sweet.

                    This is the best DIY NAS case I've seen but it's not cheap: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IAELTAI/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00IAELTAI&linkCode=as2&tag=diy-nas-20&linkId=FXJXCIGCRY5WCZUT

                    grumbling about the CDN$ intensifies

                    Price: $149.99 + $100.04 Shipping & Import Fees Deposit to Canada

                    I want you all to think of this situation like you're talking to your daughter and trying to convince her to dump her boyfriend who rides a motorcycle, wears a leather jacket and seems high all the time. Her answer will always be "...but I love him". That's my answer.

                    ....but I love it

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                    • MattSpellerM
                      MattSpeller @MattSpeller
                      last edited by

                      @MattSpeller said:

                      @wirestyle22 said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @johnhooks said:

                      Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?

                      To a business, the big thing is support.

                      To a consumer, the big thing is "small, cheap chassis." A ReadyNAS is offered in a very nice little desktop unit with hot swap bays. It would be great if someone was making business class little chassis like that that we could build SAM-SD Minis out of, but I have not seen one yet. HP Proliant Micro is a good start, but not ideal for that. Smaller, two bay and ARM based would be really sweet.

                      This is the best DIY NAS case I've seen but it's not cheap: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IAELTAI/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00IAELTAI&linkCode=as2&tag=diy-nas-20&linkId=FXJXCIGCRY5WCZUT

                      grumbling about the CDN$ intensifies

                      Price: $149.99 + $100.04 Shipping & Import Fees Deposit to Canada

                      Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh baby. I take it all back. I don't $450 before tax want one at all.

                      Price: CDN$ 437.48

                      http://www.amazon.ca/Silverstone-Tek-Mini-ITX-Computer-DS380B/dp/B00IAELTAI/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1454693376&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=SilverStone+Technology+Premium+Mini-ITX+%2F+DTX+Small+Form+Factor+NAS

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                      • gjacobseG
                        gjacobse @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        If I am going to put in twelve drives, I want a server chassis.

                        While it maybe over kill..

                        Dual PSUs and Dual CPUs.. I mean,.. with twelve drives,.. why not?

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                        • wirestyle22W
                          wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          If I am going to put in twelve drives, I want a server chassis.

                          I just bought a Coolermaster Cosmos 2 for my home media server. It's the biggest case I've ever seen in my life and weighs almost 50 lbs by itself.

                          http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Cosmos-II-RC-1200-KKN1/dp/B006P88VNE/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1454693502&sr=1-1&keywords=cosmos+2

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                          • MattSpellerM
                            MattSpeller @gjacobse
                            last edited by

                            @gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22 @MattSpeller
                              last edited by

                              @MattSpeller said:

                              @gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.

                              Oh that's a conversation we can have. If you guys were making a network closet at home how would you cool it?

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @wirestyle22
                                last edited by

                                @wirestyle22 said:

                                @MattSpeller said:

                                @gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.

                                Oh that's a conversation we can have. If you guys were making a network closet at home how would you cool it?

                                Generally, as long as moisture is controlled, cooling for networking equipment is a non-issue in a lab/home environment.

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                                • MattSpellerM
                                  MattSpeller @wirestyle22
                                  last edited by

                                  @wirestyle22 said:

                                  @MattSpeller said:

                                  @gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.

                                  Oh that's a conversation we can have. If you guys were making a network closet at home how would you cool it?

                                  I would cool it ambiently and save money on my heating bills. Nothing says "I work in IT" like a server rack in your living room.

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                                  • travisdh1T
                                    travisdh1 @MattSpeller
                                    last edited by travisdh1

                                    @MattSpeller said:

                                    @wirestyle22 said:

                                    @MattSpeller said:

                                    @gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.

                                    Oh that's a conversation we can have. If you guys were making a network closet at home how would you cool it?

                                    I would cool it ambiently and save money on my heating bills. Nothing says "I work in IT" like a server rack in your living room.

                                    Or a 13U rack under your desk at home. Man, I gotta remember to check out Northeast Factory Direct, bet I could pickup one for cheap.

                                    Edit: No, it's not NFD, now what is that used equipment warehouse in Cleveland?

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22 @MattSpeller
                                      last edited by

                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      @wirestyle22 said:

                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      @gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.

                                      Oh that's a conversation we can have. If you guys were making a network closet at home how would you cool it?

                                      I would cool it ambiently and save money on my heating bills. Nothing says "I work in IT" like a server rack in your living room.

                                      The only place I would put it in my living room would be sort of behind my TV which the lights and stuff would distract I think. First world problems

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                                      • MattSpellerM
                                        MattSpeller @travisdh1
                                        last edited by

                                        @travisdh1 said:

                                        @MattSpeller said:

                                        @wirestyle22 said:

                                        @MattSpeller said:

                                        @gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.

                                        Oh that's a conversation we can have. If you guys were making a network closet at home how would you cool it?

                                        I would cool it ambiently and save money on my heating bills. Nothing says "I work in IT" like a server rack in your living room.

                                        Or a 13U rack under your desk at home. Man, I gotta remember to check out Northeast Factory Direct, bet I could pickup one for cheap.

                                        13U is almost the perfect height for an ottoman. Just saying.

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                                        • wirestyle22W
                                          wirestyle22 @MattSpeller
                                          last edited by

                                          @MattSpeller said:

                                          @travisdh1 said:

                                          @MattSpeller said:

                                          @wirestyle22 said:

                                          @MattSpeller said:

                                          @gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.

                                          Oh that's a conversation we can have. If you guys were making a network closet at home how would you cool it?

                                          I would cool it ambiently and save money on my heating bills. Nothing says "I work in IT" like a server rack in your living room.

                                          Or a 13U rack under your desk at home. Man, I gotta remember to check out Northeast Factory Direct, bet I could pickup one for cheap.

                                          13U is almost the perfect height for an ottoman. Just saying.

                                          https://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php/LackRack

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @wirestyle22
                                            last edited by

                                            @wirestyle22 said:

                                            @MattSpeller said:

                                            @travisdh1 said:

                                            @MattSpeller said:

                                            @wirestyle22 said:

                                            @MattSpeller said:

                                            @gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.

                                            Oh that's a conversation we can have. If you guys were making a network closet at home how would you cool it?

                                            I would cool it ambiently and save money on my heating bills. Nothing says "I work in IT" like a server rack in your living room.

                                            Or a 13U rack under your desk at home. Man, I gotta remember to check out Northeast Factory Direct, bet I could pickup one for cheap.

                                            13U is almost the perfect height for an ottoman. Just saying.

                                            https://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php/LackRack

                                            I've been thinking of building one of these but my wife would kill me. At our next house I'm going to build a data closet.

                                            MattSpellerM wirestyle22W scottalanmillerS 3 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 1
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