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    • stacksofplatesS
      stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      @johnhooks said:

      @scottalanmiller I just want to know why you're so anti-zfs and anti-FreeNAS. The GUI is awesome.

      Where did the idea that I am anti-ZFS come from? People repeat that all of the time. I was promoting ZFS a decade ago. I probably am more responsible for introducing it to the SMB market than most anyone. I was pushing it years before people had any idea what it was or how to use it. I have been working with ZFS since Thumper. I actually got access to Thumper before general release. I've seen people say this many times, yet I'm an ardent promoter of ZFS when it makes sense.

      As far as FreeNAS, the GUI is irrelevant if it puts you at risk. What is the purpose of an easy to "set up" system that you depend on if it is not easy to maintain and fix if something fails? Easy to use GUIs are evil if they get you into trouble and don't provide the way out.

      Did you read The Jurassic Park Effect that explains why NAS OS (not FreeNAS specifically) are categorically a bad idea? Storage isn't a game. It's not something that you can trivially replace should you not know how to fix it when things fail, and things do fail. You don't use "simple to get up and running, hard to fix" in production, you want "hard to get running, easy to keep reliable" instead.

      I was being facetious. It was a reference to the spiceworks thread today about the guy using FreeNAS and a SAN.

      Didn't mean for you to have to write that large reply.

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      • scottalanmillerS
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        LOL, thanks 🙂

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        • scottalanmillerS
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          It sucks, every time I try to go down the path of "Let's figure out the right technology for your specific scenario.", someone immediately attacks me for hating whatever product they are trying to push. Not using product X for every scenario without even considering client needs must mean that I hate that product, hate the person in question and hate the entire technology around it. And the moment I try to point out that something is too costly, they will tell me to stop wasting money (um, I just told you you were spending too much!) or if I mention needs they will point out that I, alternately, have no idea what a small business is like and/or have no idea what a large business is like.

          It's so frustrating that people will say anything to try to discredit you over there. I think that they just guess what size company you are with and try to say that you know nothing about "the opposite one." I have no idea how other people post there, if I didn't have over a quarter century in the industry and have worked with many companies at both ends of the spectrum (literally two person companies to multiple in the Fortune 10) I would be automatically be discredited everywhere for not being in a company of the right size.

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          • stacksofplatesS
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            I used to read a lot there, but lately I've just been participating on here (I still read stuff on there, just don't post as much). If I had a dollar for every time someone recommended Ubuntu because "it's better for desktops" I'd be a millionaire. It's sad because a lot of the time the people generally don't have an idea of what direction to take and they are just guessing, so catering to their guesses makes it worse.

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              I think that one of the biggest behavioural things that is happening, but obviously I am only guessing, is that people do a lot of "do what I did" not because they have any reason to believe that what they did was the right thing but rather because they want other people to repeat their behaviour because it reinforces, in their minds, that what they did was correct.

              Basically, if I jumped off a bridge I want you to jump off of it too so that it feels like there is agreement that I made a good decision in jumping. It is a form of reverse-reasoning where humans like to justify decisions that are already made when they did not take the time to decide if they were wise decisions before having made them.

              It is well covered in "Predictably Irrational" and I see it constantly. It's not that they want others to fail, they just want "justification" for their own decisions since they lack any reliable way to defend what was actually a decision made without clear rationale (not that the decision was wrong, just that it was haphazard.)

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              • stacksofplatesS
                stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                I think that one of the biggest behavioural things that is happening, but obviously I am only guessing, is that people do a lot of "do what I did" not because they have any reason to believe that what they did was the right thing but rather because they want other people to repeat their behaviour because it reinforces, in their minds, that what they did was correct.

                Basically, if I jumped off a bridge I want you to jump off of it too so that it feels like there is agreement that I made a good decision in jumping. It is a form of reverse-reasoning where humans like to justify decisions that are already made when they did not take the time to decide if they were wise decisions before having made them.

                It is well covered in "Predictably Irrational" and I see it constantly. It's not that they want others to fail, they just want "justification" for their own decisions since they lack any reliable way to defend what was actually a decision made without clear rationale (not that the decision was wrong, just that it was haphazard.)

                I've seen you talk about that book before. I need to get it.

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                • scottalanmillerS
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                  Great book, probably the best book that I have ever read that helped me to understand people (and myself.)

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                    Elastix 4: Anyone worked with it and notice that under the hood the packages are all Elastix 2.5, but deployed to CentOS 7?

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                    • JaredBuschJ
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      Elastix 4: Anyone worked with it and notice that under the hood the packages are all Elastix 2.5, but deployed to CentOS 7?

                      No, but it is what I expected.

                      Elastix was abandoning the FreePBX backend. Version 2.4 was supposed ot be the last version. Elastix 3.0 was supposed to be a better thing.

                      Then it all went to shit. They rushed out 2.5 and it breaks working 2.4 systems that attempt to upgrade.

                      Then they came up with this idea to get money from KickStarter to get it ported to CentOS 7 and they would call it version 4. Note the term ported.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
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                        No updates since March, which is not THAT long ago, but it is pretty long in terms of a port 😞

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                        • scottalanmillerS
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                          Was up until almost 2am working on the "AJ Plan", back at it again st 6:30am.

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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Was up until almost 2am working on the "AJ Plan", back at it again st 6:30am.

                            Uhm the "AJ Plan" -

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                              Another day of off and on rain. Soccer was called, might have a game tomorrow. Getting the house ready for a disaster to occur... Son will have a sleep over tonight, so it will be interesting to see how much of the house is left when it is over.

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                                Dealing with a water delivery that we did not order. They told us not to let random water delivery people into the house, but he kept saying that they called him for delivery. Argh.

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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  Dealing with a water delivery that we did not order. They told us not to let random water delivery people into the house, but he kept saying that they called him for delivery. Argh.

                                  weird

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
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                                    Common thing here, very poor region, so people try to catch you needing watch to sell you more. It is $2 for 5 gallons here, delivered by bicycle. Problem is, if you let a random water guy in your house instead of the one from your service, they have a tendency to "find loose items" as they pass through. So you have to be a little wary. Nothing scary, just kids that might pocket something laying around the house while they are delivering the water.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
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                                      I'm sure that that is not as common as the people make it sound, nothing ever is. Probably happened once. It's mostly just kids desperate to sell water.

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                                        Site is super busy right now, but no idea why.

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                                          Pool guy is done, now to convince the wife to get ready so that we can hit the Choco Museum for breakfast.

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                                            Planning on breakfast at the Granada ChocoMuseum.

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