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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Getting the car loaded up to go to our new storage unit.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @Joy
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        @Joy said:

        @Dashrender said:

        @Joy said:

        Reading about "How to set up
        WSUS on server 2008 😑

        are you limited to a 7 year old OS on purpose?

        It was just a test-set up.

        Things have changed quite a bit... might be learning something for nothing if you do plan to deploy this on Server 2012R2.

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        • JoyJ
          Joy @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said:

          @Joy said:

          @Dashrender said:

          @Joy said:

          Reading about "How to set up
          WSUS on server 2008 😑

          are you limited to a 7 year old OS on purpose?

          It was just a test-set up.

          Things have changed quite a bit... might be learning something for nothing if you do plan to deploy this on Server 2012R2.

          We will use windows server 2008.
          I was following this guide.
          https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd939859(v=ws.10).aspx

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @Joy
            last edited by

            @Joy said:

            @Dashrender said:

            @Joy said:

            @Dashrender said:

            @Joy said:

            Reading about "How to set up
            WSUS on server 2008 😑

            are you limited to a 7 year old OS on purpose?

            It was just a test-set up.

            Things have changed quite a bit... might be learning something for nothing if you do plan to deploy this on Server 2012R2.

            We will use windows server 2008.
            I was following this guide.
            https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd939859(v=ws.10).aspx

            OK, Mind if I ask why you are using a 7+ year old OS? Will the company not buy a new license?

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            • JoyJ
              Joy @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said:

              @Joy said:

              @Dashrender said:

              @Joy said:

              @Dashrender said:

              @Joy said:

              Reading about "How to set up
              WSUS on server 2008 😑

              are you limited to a 7 year old OS on purpose?

              It was just a test-set up.

              Things have changed quite a bit... might be learning something for nothing if you do plan to deploy this on Server 2012R2.

              We will use windows server 2008.
              I was following this guide.
              https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd939859(v=ws.10).aspx

              OK, Mind if I ask why you are using a 7+ year old OS? Will the company not buy a new license?

              Well, Windows 7 is pretty good for production use.
              As you know, users get to used to it.

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              • MattSpellerM
                MattSpeller @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender We're migrating this year from 8 to 12, it's not a small task. Only reason we're doing it is because we got a smoking deal on licensing from techsoup!

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @Joy
                  last edited by

                  @Joy said:

                  Well, Windows 7 is pretty good for production use.
                  As you know, users get to used to it.

                  But that has nothing to do with what severs you have in the Datacenter.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @MattSpeller
                    last edited by

                    @MattSpeller said:

                    @Dashrender We're migrating this year from 8 to 12, it's not a small task. Only reason we're doing it is because we got a smoking deal on licensing from techsoup!

                    We're not talking about migrating, Joy is talking about deploying a new server to use for WSUS. Since this is a new server, I'm just wondering why she isn't doing it on Server 2012r2 instead of Server 2008.

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                    • MattSpellerM
                      MattSpeller @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender I deployed an 8 this week because of licensing. Unless you're 12 on the hypervisor the licencing gets really screwball (which is why we bought datacenter(and the cause of our issues) )

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                      • JoyJ
                        Joy @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @MattSpeller said:

                        @Dashrender We're migrating this year from 8 to 12, it's not a small task. Only reason we're doing it is because we got a smoking deal on licensing from techsoup!

                        We're not talking about migrating, Joy is talking about deploying a new server to use for WSUS. Since this is a new server, I'm just wondering why she isn't doing it on Server 2012r2 instead of Server 2008.

                        Hmm, I checked our list of licenses and I found out we have a lot of Windows2012 license.
                        Forgive me but, may I ask what's the difference on Win Server 2008 and Win Server 2012 when deploying WSUS? 😳
                        Since I will do this for the first time.

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                        • RojoLocoR
                          RojoLoco @MattSpeller
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                          @MattSpeller said:

                          @Dashrender I deployed an 8 this week because of licensing. Unless you're 12 on the hypervisor the licencing gets really screwball (which is why we bought datacenter(and the cause of our issues) )

                          I know it's wrong, but I put datacenter 12 as the hypervisor so I could just have at it. This is only a test environment, of course, but even on a T3500 desktop it runs pretty well. No license worries, though....

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch
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                            @RojoLoco said:

                            I know it's wrong, but I put datacenter 12 as the hypervisor so I could just have at it. This is only a test environment, of course, but even on a T3500 desktop it runs pretty well. No license worries, though....

                            Nothing really wrong with it in my opinion. Installing it as core+gui for initial setup and then backing it down to core only after the hyper-v setup is done is still a solid hyper-visor.

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                            • RojoLocoR
                              RojoLoco @JaredBusch
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                              @JaredBusch said:

                              @RojoLoco said:

                              I know it's wrong, but I put datacenter 12 as the hypervisor so I could just have at it. This is only a test environment, of course, but even on a T3500 desktop it runs pretty well. No license worries, though....

                              Nothing really wrong with it in my opinion. Installing it as core+gui for initial setup and then backing it down to core only after the hyper-v setup is done is still a solid hyper-visor.

                              Ya know, I never thought to put it back to just core... but I use the host machine for stuff too. Q4 is when we get new hardware... dammit.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @RojoLoco
                                last edited by JaredBusch

                                @RojoLoco said:

                                but I use the host machine for stuff too.

                                That part is the wrong part. You are using DC, just spin up another Windows VM.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  Just got back from our first load to the storage unit. Managed to get away with a little 5x5 unit for just $22/mo. Not too bad.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                                    @MattSpeller said:

                                    @Dashrender I deployed an 8 this week because of licensing. Unless you're 12 on the hypervisor the licencing gets really screwball (which is why we bought datacenter(and the cause of our issues) )

                                    The hypervisor has nothing to do with what you can use on top of it. Licensing from the hypervisor comes down purely to "virtualization: yes or now". What the hypervisor is never changes the licensing of Windows on top of it.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
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                                      @RojoLoco said:

                                      Ya know, I never thought to put it back to just core... but I use the host machine for stuff too. Q4 is when we get new hardware... dammit.

                                      That's not a good design. It's "legal" because it is DC licensing but it would be very bad with standard licensing. But it is an anti-best practice in general. Remember the "host" machine is not the host, it's a control environment designed to only be used to manage HyperV, never should anything else happen there.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch
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                                        I am trying to imagine a use for 2,400 3.5" HDD per year.
                                        http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1194915-where-to-order-hard-drives-in-bulk

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                                        • MattSpellerM
                                          MattSpeller @JaredBusch
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                                          @JaredBusch posted in that one earlier, that was my thought too.

                                          in before NSA 😛

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            That is a LOT of drives.

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