That is a shame but sadly for startups it does happen. It the last 1990s I worked for a startup which was to have product in Circuit City and Best Buy.

Sadly the (x) Manager took the paper orders and had the Production of said orders before the final commit from CC or BB.

That paper order for about 50,000 units at a tune of about $8 Million coffined the company. Business, production and finance models were a tad different then - They sold all the stock sub-production cost just to empty the warehouse of it.

Maybe Jolla will be able to recover, and indeed turn things around.

Looks almost like a Chromebook

Yeah I read that the same way @Kelly .

That's like being paranoid about catching some tropical rain forest virus when you live in the tundra, so you just stay home all day and night.

@scottalanmiller said:

@dafyre said:

@scottalanmiller said:

OpenVMS, now that's good stuff.

Not over telnet, ha ha ha.

It has OpenSSH. If you had only telnet, someone decided to just leave it wide open. VMS Admins are hard to find and always were.

I didn't take well to OpenVMS, mostly because near the end of my time there in 2002 they tossed it at me. Gotta love the, you know UNIX, so you already know everything you need to know about OpenVMS attitude. Couldn't have set me up to fail any better, and I was too young to know what was going down.

@Dashrender said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@Dashrender said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@Dashrender said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@quicky2g said:

@JaredBusch said:

@quicky2g said:

Never heard of ownCloud but tried watching some of the features videos

https://owncloud.org/features/

and whoever made them sounds like a 14 year old boy going through puberty. Just can't keep watching.

At the core, ownCloud is basically a self hosted DropBox.

I use it at multiple clients and use it personally.

Hmmm guess I'll have to try it out. I like the idea of staying off the grid with my files. What's your beef against having your own hosted email server?

It's the all in one that he doesn't like. Same basic reasoning as to why Windows SBS was so horrible.

Eh? I though you, @scottalanmiller didn't like self hosted email because it is often way to expensive for someone to host themselves compared to what they get service wise going with something like Rackspace ($1 Spiceworks price, $2 normal people price + $1/user for activesync, or $4 for O365 email only).

That's correct. What makes you say that as if I said something contrary?

Only that you mentioned the "it's the all in one that he doesn't like" when talking about email being added to Owncloud.

That may be one person's desire, but it seems more pressing to push on the issue of almost never self hosting email if possible.

Maybe, but that wasnt what I was answering 🙂

oh, what did I miss?

I was answering why he didn't like having the email on the same server as other, non-email items.

This would be an awesome project to see this community take on!

@scottalanmiller said:

@marcinozga said:

If I understand correctly how that app works, it streams video content from public trackers. Poor quality and a huge risk for legal repercussions. And while open source licensing allow them to avoid legal trouble - except the original developers - the end users are exposed to all kinds of issues.

Only if illegal where you live. This is perfectly legal in much of the world, including parts of Europe.

My wife got a letter from Verizon once, because, silly me, I was downloading from Kickass. I know in Germany you can get in real trouble for torrenting. In Poland torrenting is legal for "private use" as long as you don't share it - I know, real geniuses we have in our government, part of why I migrated.

@Ambarishrh said:

Hope its just the sourceforge and NOT the package itself infected

Sourceforge is a known malware "dealer" that hides malware in things that they download.

You pushed them over the edge to needing to publish the numbers 😉

Good tool. We use VBox for ML testing environments.

@ChristopherO I do believe drinks are in order for this man!