Garbage collection updates, that's pretty key for Java.

@kooler said in Stanford Removes Java in Favor of JavaScript in Intro to Computer Science Course:

@worden2 said in Stanford Removes Java in Favor of JavaScript in Intro to Computer Science Course:

@kooler said in Stanford Removes Java in Favor of JavaScript in Intro to Computer Science Course:

@mlnews said in Stanford Removes Java in Favor of JavaScript in Intro to Computer Science Course:

In a bit of a surprise move in the educational space, computer science bulwark Stanford University has chosen to remove Java and replace it with JavaScript in their Intro to Computer Science class. Java has been the language of this somewhat famous class since 2002, a run of fifteen years. They say that Java is showing its age, although to be fair JavaScript is nearly as old. Java itself is 22 years old this year. Since being purchased by Oracle, interest in Java has slowly fallen from its lofty peak during stewardship under Sun.

Anybody who's starting with anything except assembly language is WRONG!!! If somebody doesn't know how CPU works he can't make a decent software engineer: he'll use bloatware, write things in interpreted languages and bring file systems to kernel from user-land.

As a matter of purity or getting down to basics when introducing concepts, I agree. But, when you're talking about trying to introduce CS concepts to people new to the field assembly is a nightmare. I had some simple assembly as part of intro CS when in college, but it almost soured me completely on programming. Of course, what really killed my nascent interest in programming (in college) was having to learn Cobol... :) Perhaps it's safe to say that the closer you get to the kernel the more you need assembly?

Nope, modern kernel is developed in C and some C++ mostly.

Its really about basics: if you don't know how hardware works and how expensive f.e. thread content switch is you'll write something looking very cool and simple and it actually crinkles and mangles on a real hardware.

Eyyyyy!!!! Now that's what I'm talking about :). Those are my favorite languages!

@FiyaFly said in Outdated Java and IE security settings for CUCM. When did this become okay?!:

@scottalanmiller said in Outdated Java and IE security settings for CUCM. When did this become okay?!:

That seems pretty bad.

For firefox, had to follow this: http://stokebrand.com/blog/2015/7/6/cannot-login-to-cisco-callmanager-after-firefox-update
For Java, I had to drop the security from very high to just high, disable some "Block these apps" settings and add an exemption for the https://IP:port of the CUCM server.

For those who don't want to follow the link for firefox, I had to set these in about:config
security.ssl3.dhe_rsa_aes_128_sha=false
security.ssl3.dhe_rsa_aes_256_sha=false

Perhaps you need to setup a VM specifically for managing that old equipment.

@thwr said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

@travisdh1 said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

@thwr said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

@JaredBusch said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

I have not needed to use the iDRAC console in a couple of years now, and I had not realized that I still had to have f'n java installed in order to use it. WTF....

Pretty much the same for every kind of remote console, be it on an IBM, Dell or SuperMicro server or on an Aten IP KVM. PITA, big, nasty PITA.

How many of us have a VM on our workstation just for this? I know I do, and it's hard to get much smaller than we are and still need any IT.

Yup, using a VM for this. Yet another system to maintain.

I have a machine or VM (depending on client) running Veeam already so I drop java on that via chocolatey.

Once up and running it acts like it works, but then gets this error and is useless.

19:52:02 [CRITICAL] Could not tick level "world": java.lang.NullPointerException 19:52:02 [ALERT] java.lang.NullPointerException

Code Academy is great, and you can't beat free, of course.

@scottalanmiller said:

@johnhooks said:

Right, but then they don't update it? How can you have enough resources to create an application and then not enough to update it with the platform it's built on?

Why waste money updating something if your customers don't leave you anyway? That's not good business.

I hate your logic sometimes ;)

Original post has been updated to reflect the latest 0.9 release of the Minecraft Server.

@Dashrender You move from 7 to 8 for features, not for security. This is a fully patched and fully managed version of 7, so actually staying on it for security, not in spite of it.

Also, remember this is OpenJDK not Oracle JRE so fully open source, visible to the community, audited and no history of security problems.

@coliver said:

Wasn't there a project that ran Python on top of Python?

Likely.

@scottalanmiller said:

Old ilO too.

...all old and current iDRAC.

Here is an example: http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1190263-java-script-inserting-an-image-into-a-pdf-form

In this discussion, he titles the post "Java Script". But there is no Java Script, there is Java which is not a scripting language and there is JavaScript which is. So it would either be a Java program (lower case p) or a JavaScript script (lower case s.) The use of the upper case S in Script implies that he believes it to be a part of the name, but there is nothing with that name. He tags the thread "Java" which implies he truly means Java, but where did the word Script come from? Nothing in the topic provides a clue as to what he is doing. There is not any context to determine what language he is referring to. And given that he is unsure how to refer to them or that there could be confusion it is completely realistic that he does not mean either.

Read - Eval - Print Loop

It's a way to use the programming language without having to write an entire program first.

@scottalanmiller said:

It's much like how COBOL and Fortran take quite a beating today. But they were breakthroughs at the time and were really important.

In the context of their time COBOL, FORTRAN, et al were important, but today they're lumbering proto-dinosaurs. It's more disturbing than anything else how much out there still uses it and should've been replaced long ago.

I was going to mention flash as well, and what I like is how flash is finally on its way out, and mostly only gets used now for video. We fail over to flash player for some of our older videos which are not re-encoded (we've been slowly re-encoding to something HTML5 friendly, but there are 2 million videos so it's taking a while) and also fail over if the person simply doesn't have HTML 5 video playing for whatever reason.

I am not going to take the time to read through the site rules as I do not even have an account, but I question if that can be done without the developers consent.

That would still put it back on the developer and I will simply not support a developer that does it. same as I no longer support Sun/Java products if at all possible.

Java has turned into a great server side product but a pretty pathetic client side one.

That Android uses Java as its programming platform is pretty surprising.

@scottalanmiller said:

Nothing is more confusing than the "Go" language.

As in DO NOT PASS ?? lol