@thecreativeone91 said:

Pfsense doesn't do well performance wise virtalized. At least it didn't used to. I think they have a pay for version optimized for VM platforms.

It's just FreeBSD plus drivers, right? It should do as well as FreeBSD does on whatever platform is in question. That FreeBSD doesn't have PV support for Xen is a major drawback to FreeBSD as a platform in general. But it should only be a question of drivers, in general.

The FreeNAS community really shows just how important it is to avoid products like FreeNAS. It's built on good tech, but the issues are that the community is horrible, only tiny non-storage expert shops use it and it is broadly misunderstood. FreeNAS doesn't make any of the technology, they just repackage it. So the vendor and their community all lack the basic knowledge of what they have and the stuff that they repeat just gets worse and worse.

If this was the FreeBSD community, talking about the same technologies, the answers and approaches would be completely different. Enterprises use FreeBSD every day. They do not use FreeNAS. Once you limit yourself to a "non-expert" product, the idea of using a community for assistance causes a breakdown in dangerous ways.

@tonyshowoff said:

That's true too, but my own point on that subject was that the sysadmins needed to at least know how to actually do it. There's nothing that beats a tool which will automatically get all the dependencies and everything.

Agree on the knowledge of how, what, why, etc.

This one was an easy fix, but that the issue exists at all is a fragility unique to FreeNAS that does not exist if you only use FreeBSD:

http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/911053-freenas-database-corrupt

I love both PC-BSD and Cinnamon. Just wish that they would get this polished and fully stable. Could really be awesome. Although, I hear, PC-BSD is working on a native desktop to really help the BSD desktop ecosystem compete as Linux desktops have deep ties into the Linux ecosystem.

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@scottalanmiller said:

http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2014/11/24/pc-bsd-10-1-review/

It took me a few goes to read that link correctly.
The first few times, I read Linux BS DOS. 😆

FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE is now available for the amd64, i386, ia64, powerpc, powerpc64, sparc64, and armv6 architectures.

So that is production ready for PC, Itanium, IBM Power (i Series), Oracle and ARM systems. That's pretty much anything that you would want for enterprise use. Some obvious things like MIPS are missing, but that's very minor and older releases should be available and NetBSD will cover that as well. For production usage, FreeBSD is fully ready to go.

Now I feel old.

Have you tried GhostBSD? How does it compare to PC-BSD which seems to be much more popular.

It's pretty solid, but I don't like it compared to just using FreeBSD. The web interface brings problems and doesn't really buy you anything. Not like it has additional functionality.

Good to know, thanks.

Haven't used BSD since my days at Data General. DG/UX was a hybrid, BSD for the file system (faster and more robust), networking used streams from ATT Sys V. I have now dated myself.

I tried moving us to a TS environment about 4 years ago - I couldn't get past the thin clients 'flashing' on websites that used Adobe Flash. When moving between screens on our EMR of the time the whole window would flash white before going to the next screen. I posted about it on SW... someone posted a reason why (can't recall now). Never had the problem when using a Windows machine as a terminal into the TS.

In the end it worked out since our current EMR strictly forbids TS.

@scottalanmiller Netgear needs to get on here! Who ya know?