He asked - what's the difference between USG/EdgeRouter/some other firewall.

@scottalanmiller said in Vendor troubles..: @WrCombs said in Vendor troubles..: @Pete-S said in Vendor troubles..: BTW, on windows telnet is not enabled/installed by default. Hey I knew that one! lol I ran into that in the past, I just didn't know what telnet was used for. Sort of... everything, lol. well, I see that now, I watched the video then did my own research for it.

Check out Fortigate product. FortiNet offers documentation on setup of their firewalls for PCI DSS compliance: https://help.fortinet.com/fos60hlp/60/Content/FortiOS/fortigate-compliance/PCI-DSS.htm?Highlight=PCI They office a subscription service whereby they manage patches/updates for their firewalls as well as monitoring (specifically, Logging, to me it really isn't monitoring) in order to match the "managed firewall" checkbox. Now, I only have a little experience with Fortigate's as we just installed one in our data center as we have a customer requesting us to be compliant (for no apparent reason other than they want us to be, we do not store credit card data and do any processing via https web site)

@kelly said in Routers Vs. Firewall: You went pretty fast up the hyperbole chain there @scottalanmiller. I don't think this discussion is helpful to continue with the ways you're choosing to discuss things. It's not hyperbole, it's just common sense. You can't say a firewall isn't a firewall because you don't feel it does enough firewalling compared to routing. That's just silly. Anything that you use to show why that's silly, will sound ridiculous, but it's a silly thing to have to explain. It's clearly not a viable way to name things. A router is a router, no matter how much firewalling it does. It's status as a router is absolutely based on if it routes, not "if it does other things in some quantity." Hyperbole would only apply if the silly examples were to some degree sillier than the original language. But they are not. The "I'm a man and I'm 42" is identical in every way to "it's a router and it is a firewall." Not in the slightest way exaggerated.

@travisdh1 I'm surprised too, but I guess. I think they're probably counting things like rogue USB devices left lying around and such as part of the malicious group.