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    • wrx7mW

      "Home" Lab - Is it Cost-Effective to Run at Home?

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      DustinB3403D

      I have a HP DL360 running 24/7 at my house, I was initially concerned about the electricity for it, but my bill went up by a few dollars a month.

    • JaredBuschJ

      Estimating SIP Trunk costs

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      • freepbx setup freepbx 13 guide real instructions jareds guide to freepbx 13 cost comparison sip trunk how to freepbx • • JaredBusch
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      wrx7mW

      Thanks for this post, @JaredBusch . I got the previous month's bill from TPX and am going to start going through it to see how much we can save by switching from our PRI.

      We have to upgrade (replace) our Mitel/ShoreTel Shoregear T1, so that will cost a few grand.

    • scottalanmillerS

      Cost Study: 4 Node Scale vs. 4 Node VMware IPOD

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      • scale scale hc3 vmware esxi emc san storage inverted pyramid of doom ipod cost comparison • • scottalanmiller
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      Net RunnerN

      @scottalanmiller And Starwind ships their ready nodes armed with RAID https://www.starwindsoftware.com/starwind-hyperconverged-appliance so i think they still keep doing RAID and i am sure it is for a reason some of them I've mentioned above.

    • scottalanmillerS

      Cost Study: 3 Node Scale vs. 3 Node VMware IPOD

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      wirestyle22W

      @Dashrender said in Cost Study: 3 Node Scale vs. 3 Node VMware IPOD:

      @wirestyle22 said in Cost Study: 3 Node Scale vs. 3 Node VMware IPOD:

      @Mike-Davis said in Cost Study: 3 Node Scale vs. 3 Node VMware IPOD:

      @Dashrender yes, I was thinking of agentless solutions like Veeam. So if it has KVM support it will work with Scale?

      I wish I could help you with this. No place that I've worked at has needed something that big 😞

      I came really close - I just missed the Scale boat. 3 years ago when looking at a replacement EHR I posted about some ridiculous needs. Many conversations with Scott - and Scale never came up. Looking back, I have to assume that Scale wasn't something we knew about quite yet. Instead I was looking at a $100K two server setup with something like 20 disks each (mainly for IOPs - this was pre acceptable SSD pricing). Management went with another solution (one they hate today) because the startup costs where so high.

      Found my old crazy thread.
      https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/310103-new-greenway-install?page=2

      Yeah I was reading your thread earlier. It's interesting.

    • scottalanmillerS

      Cost Study: 3 Node Scale vs. 3 Node VMware VSAN

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      @John-Nicholson said in Cost Study: 3 Node Scale vs. 3 Node VMware VSAN:

      @Dashrender said:

      @scottalanmiller said in Cost Study: 3 Node Scale vs. 3 Node VMware VSAN:

      VMware VSAN Support Cost: $25,440 ($1060 per CPU for each year after the first)

      Wow - why even sell VSAN at that point - why don't they just do subscription and get over with it - wow that seems expensive. Is this in line with support contracts for other SAN products? I know it's hard to judge that because this is based on CPU (luckily not cores) where I'm assuming typical SAN support is more based upon capacity.

      Because that's not what vSAN costs for a 3 node cluster. The capital cost is 15K List for a 3 node cluster. I'm guessing he's bundling the first 3 years of support in or something and putting zero discounting on the cost.

      This cost study is also using 4TB SATA drives which vSAN doesn't certify. Also the only 1.9TB drive I"m familiar with that Dell sells (this could have changed) is a PM863 that gets awful write latency consistency and is only certified for capacity usage not write cache. Beyond that you would be better served by 2 smaller write intensive SSD's. This cost study ignores the HCL, the design and sizing guide.

      Because there is no good way to an apples to apples comparison. Yes the cost of both has the support for the term built in. And the need for higher cost, lower density drives for vSAN would not be favourable to the vSAN solution - so while it could follow the HCL, it would look as if I was attempting to skew the numbers to make the vSAN look bad. Most importantly, this gives the best cost analysis advantage to the vSAN, even at the cost of not being officially on the HCL. If you want HCL'd hardware exclusively, then the cost is higher. As this is only a cost, not a design, comparison I felt that that was the more important attribute. Should have been noted, though.

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