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    RAID Controllers - Stupidly Expensive for what they are

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
      last edited by

      @DustinB3403 said:

      Possibly local storage for my XenServer Spinning Rust VM's as well.

      Same here. For a lab to learn about how XS would work with hardware RAID, sure. But in a case like that you would need the enterprise gear because that is what you are testing. If you are doing anything short of learning about that specific use case, why not software RAID again?

      In many cases, especially enterprise ones, XS would be on software RAID.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
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        Save yourself a ton of money and build a SAM-SD - it could all be Software RAID.

        @scottalanmiller did you get get the SAM-SD to run from a SD card?

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        • coliverC
          coliver @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said:

          Save yourself a ton of money and build a SAM-SD - it could all be Software RAID.

          @scottalanmiller did you get get the SAM-SD to run from a SD card?

          I went looking for the SAM-SD wiki that John had setup to suggest on this thread. Sadly it doesn't seem to exist anymore.

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          • coliverC
            coliver
            last edited by

            You could also look on ebay or craigslist for an inexpensive used server. You can get a decent HP or Dell server for a few hundred dollars.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @coliver
              last edited by

              @coliver said:

              @Dashrender said:

              Save yourself a ton of money and build a SAM-SD - it could all be Software RAID.

              @scottalanmiller did you get get the SAM-SD to run from a SD card?

              I went looking for the SAM-SD wiki that John had setup to suggest on this thread. Sadly it doesn't seem to exist anymore.

              It was never filled with enough info to be useful. We need to get an official one up and running sometime soon. Just need a web designer, argh.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @coliver said:

                @Dashrender said:

                Save yourself a ton of money and build a SAM-SD - it could all be Software RAID.

                @scottalanmiller did you get get the SAM-SD to run from a SD card?

                I went looking for the SAM-SD wiki that John had setup to suggest on this thread. Sadly it doesn't seem to exist anymore.

                It was never filled with enough info to be useful. We need to get an official one up and running sometime soon. Just need a web designer, argh.

                Some kind of Wiki or other website for things like that would be awesome to see attached to ML. Similar (maybe exactly) like what SW has.

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                • mlnewsM
                  mlnews
                  last edited by

                  That's a potential idea although user management integration would be difficult. What kind of materials are you thinking should exist in a general purpose ML wiki?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @scottalanmiller did you get get the SAM-SD to run from a SD card?

                    That would depend heavily on the kind of SAM-SD that you want. a FreeBSD system would be relatively easy. A Linux one moderate. A Windows one ill-advised.

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                    • stacksofplatesS
                      stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @coliver said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      Save yourself a ton of money and build a SAM-SD - it could all be Software RAID.

                      @scottalanmiller did you get get the SAM-SD to run from a SD card?

                      I went looking for the SAM-SD wiki that John had setup to suggest on this thread. Sadly it doesn't seem to exist anymore.

                      It was never filled with enough info to be useful. We need to get an official one up and running sometime soon. Just need a web designer, argh.

                      I do a lot with Drupal. I might be able to build something.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @mlnews
                        last edited by

                        @mlnews said:

                        That's a potential idea although user management integration would be difficult. What kind of materials are you thinking should exist in a general purpose ML wiki?

                        A general How-To that anyone who finds something interesting that they want to make sure they know where they can find it again in the future.

                        As for the SAM-SD - a Linux or FreeBSD, not sure why anyone would want a Windows one.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said:

                          not sure why anyone would want a Windows one.

                          SMB3, for example? DFS? ReFS? Management as part of the existing Windows infrastructure.

                          If you wonder why anyone would want Windows here, do you feel that Windows doesn't make sense ever or just for file servers?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said:

                            A general How-To that anyone who finds something interesting that they want to make sure they know where they can find it again in the future.

                            Other than formatting difficulties, any reason that the forum does not work for that as it is? What would having another platform add to that?

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              not sure why anyone would want a Windows one.

                              SMB3, for example? DFS? ReFS? Management as part of the existing Windows infrastructure.

                              If you wonder why anyone would want Windows here, do you feel that Windows doesn't make sense ever or just for file servers?

                              Just for remote storage - Is SMB3 really getting any traction?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said:

                                Just for remote storage - Is SMB3 really getting any traction?

                                It's bit in the HyperV space for backing HyperV. It's got some benefits for normal users. I think that basically everyone on Windows file servers is on it now (that are on current Windows Servers.)

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  Search is horrible here, perhaps tagging will help with sorting things.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    Search is horrible here, perhaps tagging will help with sorting things.

                                    Yes, you are very bad about tagging your posts. I have to edit every one to add tags after you post!

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      Search is horrible here, perhaps tagging will help with sorting things.

                                      Yes, you are very bad about tagging your posts. I have to edit every one to add tags after you post!

                                      Am I alone in this?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        Search is horrible here, perhaps tagging will help with sorting things.

                                        Yes, you are very bad about tagging your posts. I have to edit every one to add tags after you post!

                                        Am I alone in this?

                                        Mostly.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          http://blog.nigelpoulton.com/smb-3-0-best-feature-of-windows-server-2012/

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                                          • dafyreD
                                            dafyre
                                            last edited by dafyre

                                            Edit: Let's try this again...
                                            I set up a Windows Server 2012 File Server Role as a Failover Cluster (it uses SMB 3 for transparen't failover). The transparent failover worked beautifully. We had a server keel over and release the magic smok and our end users barely noticed the blip as everything failed over to the other server in less than 5 seconds.

                                            One other benefit of a modern (Windows) file server is that Deduplication is relatively easy to set up, and on that same File Server, we were getting ~30% deduplication)

                                            NB: This was the original post... skip it if you want.
                                            I set up a Windows Server 2012 File Share Failover Cluster that was backed by a SAN (hush, @scottalanmiller ) and got to experience the SMB3.0 transparent failover a few times...when the file server randomly rebooted a few times. It...was... beautiful (as well as the Deduplication! ~30% savings on a 2TB).

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