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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      Scott I will try that tonight.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
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        During the install when Windows asks for the key, choose skip. Once you're inside Windows 8 go to the activation screen and see if you can activate it. It should read from the BIOS/UEFI and activate.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said:

          10 Last night, being as it's a free upgrade which also asked for a product key. Which is why it's likely that the downloader Microsoft has is providing the Retail Installer

          You can't go directly to Windows 10 - you must upgrade from Windows 7/8 to Windows 10 first... then in the future you can install Windows 10 from scratch, and it will activate via the hardware key that MS will have stored for that machine.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
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            I'll download that same image and see if I can install it to my spare laptop sitting here allowing it to pull from the UEFI.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
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              LOL - as it just to happens, I'm doing something similar with Windows 10 right now.

              Last night I upgraded a domain joined Volume License ISO KMS key deployed image. I was wondering if Windows 10 would activate from this. After the install Windows 10 indicated that it was indeed activated.

              I'm presently installing Windows 10 from scratch on that same PC to see if it will activate automatically.

              FYI I have not changed my local KMS server with a new key - but I'm not sure if one of the recently released patches would have solved that anyhow.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
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                Total drag - I downloaded the Windows 8 ISO from the above listed site and was stopped cold in my tracks. It demands a product key to continue - I thought MS had fixed that.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  I think that they might have but only in 8.1 and later, maybe.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by Dashrender

                    OK well, apparently not, as the MS tool only allows you to download 8.1not 8

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                    • mlnewsM
                      mlnews
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                      Oh, I guess no luck then. You had mentioned 8, I was surprised you were trying the older version.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @mlnews
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                        @mlnews said:

                        Oh, I guess no luck then. You had mentioned 8, I was surprised you were trying the older version.

                        Frankly I use 8 and 8.1 interchangeably - typically it doesn't matter, though in this case it might.

                        I found this page
                        http://dellwindowsreinstallationguide.com/download-microsoft-windows-and-office/download-microsoft-windows/download-windows-8-1-retail-and-oem-iso/#Downloading

                        that talks about there being 3 different versions of non Pro you can download using the tool. I'm trying again to see what I get.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said:

                          Frankly I use 8 and 8.1 interchangeably - typically it doesn't matter, though in this case it might.

                          No different than using 7 and 8 interchangeably or 8.1 and 10. It's a separate OS with a different kernel. It's part of the Vista -> 7 -> 8 -> 8.1 -> 10 desktop family.

                          Windows 8 is 2012 and NT 6.2. Windows 8.1 is 2012 R2 and NT 6.3.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
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                            Yes teacher - I understand... Frankly calling it 8.1 was the dumbest, it would have been better off called Windows 8 second edition... this point names imply to the masses (obviously not to people like Scott) that the lineage is very close and the above distinction is unwarranted.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said:

                              Yes teacher - I understand... Frankly calling it 8.1 was the dumbest, it would have been better off called Windows 8 second edition... this point names imply to the masses (obviously not to people like Scott) that the lineage is very close and the above distinction is unwarranted.

                              It implies but is incorrect. Very important that IT not treat the naming casually. It can matter, like in this case, where we are talking about licensing or compatibility or features. Really, when doesn't it matter? It's easy to say that they are similar, but they are still as different as any two others members of the same lineage when it comes to what matters (solving problems, knowing how things work, licensing, etc.) While they "look" similar, I can't think of any scenario where not knowing which OS you are discussing doesn't matter.

                              Absolutely the naming was terrible. The .1 makes people feel one thing. But they sort of corrected that by jumping to 10, reverse implying that it was spiritually 9.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                reverse implying that it was spiritually 9.

                                Not even once have I ever seen that inferred. So I would say not.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  Windows 8 SE would not be the same, in theory. There should have been no connection to Windows 8 as it was a full OS. It should have been 9 or something weird like Vista was, just a name. It wasn't an update to 8, it was a full fledged new OS. And even the visual components of the interface changed.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                    @JaredBusch said:

                                    Not even once have I ever seen that inferred. So I would say not.

                                    Why not? Doesn't the missing link between 8 and 10 imply nothing more or less than the completely "read into" implication of .1? What makes one more meaningful than the other?

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender
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                                      Because as Jared said, no one other than you has ever said that that I've read.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        Otherwise, what does the leap to 10 imply? Does it imply that the number means literally nothing (which I would agree with) which then does actually mean that 8 -> 8.1 doesn't mean anything more than 8.1 -> 10. Or does it imply that 8.1 -> 10 was a step so large as to qualify as a double jump?

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @JaredBusch said:

                                          Not even once have I ever seen that inferred. So I would say not.

                                          Why not? Doesn't the missing link between 8 and 10 imply nothing more or less than the completely "read into" implication of .1? What makes one more meaningful than the other?

                                          Nope, it does not. In fact I, find the 9 being skipped as more likely to avoid issue with old legacy code as implied by some snarky posts back when it was announced. When code checked for "Windows 9*" implying 95/98. There is a serious amount of old bad code still in active use out there.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            Because as Jared said, no one other than you has ever said that that I've read.

                                            Okay, but does that change the implication? Why do you feel it is okay to imply something in one case and not the other? Just because it's become common can be because one happened first, one was picked up by the media, one is easier to be lazy about, etc.

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