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    • ?
      A Former User
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      Depends on what it's collecting and Who is behind the product. We use Dell Spotlight on SQL Enterprise which is a web based portal (along with a local interface too). for monitoring all your SQL servers.

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      • ?
        A Former User
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        In general I'd say if it's from a repeatable company, and you are paying for the service it's okay. If it's free then you know they are doing some kinda of data collection on you to make it worth their while and sell that data to ad companies. (I'm pretty sure spiceworks desktop has some data collection, personally I don't use it.)

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          All depends on who the provider is. The fact that it is "online" or "offline" doesn't really play it to whether I trust them.

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates
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            Thanks. I'll do some more research.

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            • stacksofplatesS
              stacksofplates @A Former User
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              @thecreativeone91 they do have a free version. It's limited to around 2-3 days for log history though.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                @johnhooks said:

                @thecreativeone91 they do have a free version. It's limited to around 2-3 days for log history though.

                And limited to just two servers!

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  • stacksofplatesS
                    stacksofplates
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                    What do you use for log management?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                      last edited by

                      @johnhooks said:

                      What do you use for log management?

                      ELK

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre
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                        With the ELK setup, are you able to age records out automatically, so that everything older than say.. 1 month automatically gets purged?

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                        • ?
                          A Former User @stacksofplates
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                          @johnhooks said:

                          @thecreativeone91 they do have a free version. It's limited to around 2-3 days for log history though.

                          Not really a free product then, just a free trial.

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                          • stacksofplatesS
                            stacksofplates
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                            Thanks @scottalanmiller , I don't know how I miss stuff like that.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                              @thecreativeone91 said:

                              @johnhooks said:

                              @thecreativeone91 they do have a free version. It's limited to around 2-3 days for log history though.

                              Not really a free product then, just a free trial.

                              It's really free, not a trial. Two servers with a shorter than usual retention. That's still a full and quite usable product if you have need to look at just two servers. The three day retention is not a big deal, it's still very functional for monitoring and troubleshooting. A bit useless for long term capacity planning.

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @A Former User
                                last edited by stacksofplates

                                @thecreativeone91 You also get monitoring with it. Realtime, and a daily digest of every event (that crosses a threshold).

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                                • ?
                                  A Former User @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @thecreativeone91 said:

                                  @johnhooks said:

                                  @thecreativeone91 they do have a free version. It's limited to around 2-3 days for log history though.

                                  Not really a free product then, just a free trial.

                                  It's really free, not a trial. Two servers with a shorter than usual retention. That's still a full and quite usable product if you have need to look at just two servers. The three day retention is not a big deal, it's still very functional for monitoring and troubleshooting. A bit useless for long term capacity planning.

                                  It's still just a trial version of their fully featured product.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @A Former User
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                                    @thecreativeone91 said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @thecreativeone91 said:

                                    @johnhooks said:

                                    @thecreativeone91 they do have a free version. It's limited to around 2-3 days for log history though.

                                    Not really a free product then, just a free trial.

                                    It's really free, not a trial. Two servers with a shorter than usual retention. That's still a full and quite usable product if you have need to look at just two servers. The three day retention is not a big deal, it's still very functional for monitoring and troubleshooting. A bit useless for long term capacity planning.

                                    It's still just a trial version of their fully featured product.

                                    What makes it a trial vs a free version, in your mind?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                                      @thecreativeone91 said:

                                      It's still just a trial version of their fully featured product.

                                      But it has all of the features, no part of it is a trial.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                                        @thecreativeone91 said:

                                        It's still just a trial version of their fully featured product.

                                        Do you consider all the ones that you pay for, short of the "Unlimited" top end one, to be trials as well? If not, what's the difference? They are all limited in similar ways to the top end one.

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                                        • Reid CooperR
                                          Reid Cooper
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                                          Looks a bit like CopperEgg. Nice service, small companies tend to balk at the cost, though.

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                                          • ?
                                            A Former User @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            @thecreativeone91 said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @thecreativeone91 said:

                                            @johnhooks said:

                                            @thecreativeone91 they do have a free version. It's limited to around 2-3 days for log history though.

                                            Not really a free product then, just a free trial.

                                            It's really free, not a trial. Two servers with a shorter than usual retention. That's still a full and quite usable product if you have need to look at just two servers. The three day retention is not a big deal, it's still very functional for monitoring and troubleshooting. A bit useless for long term capacity planning.

                                            It's still just a trial version of their fully featured product.

                                            What makes it a trial vs a free version, in your mind?

                                            Because it's just a trial version to get you into buying their other pay for version. It's not a stand alone fully feature free version that they only offer as free.

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