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    Server 2012 R2 Storage Spaces versus Hardware RAID, how do you decide?

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    • creaytC
      creayt
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      Initial 2 thread IO benchmark using SQLIO.

      Left is a 6 SSD OBR10, right is a 4 SSD Storage Space:
      2thread.png

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      • creaytC
        creayt
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        The IOs/sec seems terrible with both options, I think these drives are supposed to do 100,000 EACH and both benchmarks pull less than 50,000. That said, I don't fully grasp IOPS yet or how to correctly test it so this may just be my being ignorant at the moment.

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        • MattSpellerM
          MattSpeller
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          This thread is giving me a hardware stiffy, I need to figure out how to do this for a living.

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          • creaytC
            creayt
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            Crystal benchmarks coming shortly.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @creayt
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              @creayt said:

              The IOs/sec seems terrible with both options, I think these drives are supposed to do 100,000 EACH and both benchmarks pull less than 50,000. That said, I don't fully grasp IOPS yet or how to correctly test it so this may just be my being ignorant at the moment.

              IOPS are operations and not all operations are equal.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                @MattSpeller said:

                This thread is giving me a hardware stiffy, I need to figure out how to do this for a living.

                I recently got an offer to do this full time for a living. Had to turn it down, though.

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                • MattSpellerM
                  MattSpeller @creayt
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                  @creayt said:

                  The IOs/sec seems terrible with both options, I think these drives are supposed to do 100,000 EACH and both benchmarks pull less than 50,000.

                  You're right there, have you tried a larger test file?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    From these numbers, the hardware RAID is coming back with better IOPS, better throughput and lower latency!

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                    • MattSpellerM
                      MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      I recently got an offer to do this full time for a living. Had to turn it down, though.

                      Is there a way to apprentice for this kind of thing? I need beautiful bleeding edge hardware in my life very badly.

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                      • creaytC
                        creayt @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        From these numbers, the hardware RAID is coming back with better IOPS, better throughput and lower latency!

                        The hardware RAID is a 6 drive OBR10, and this is a read test, so it's actually losing pretty hard with the exception of a few latency anomalies ( average is 0 for both ), no? Reading from 6 drives versus 4. I haven't run the write tests yet.

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                        • creaytC
                          creayt @MattSpeller
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                          @MattSpeller said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          I recently got an offer to do this full time for a living. Had to turn it down, though.

                          Is there a way to apprentice for this kind of thing? I need beautiful bleeding edge hardware in my life very badly.

                          So do I, so do I.

                          I was so close to pulling the trigger on an MSI Stealth Pro w/ a 5th-gen i7 quad last night but then I remembered what you said about Skylake being around the corner. This Radeon 5750 running 3 1440p monitors bullshit is really killing my experience.

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                          • MattSpellerM
                            MattSpeller @creayt
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                            @creayt That'd be a nice machine regardless

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                            • creaytC
                              creayt @MattSpeller
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                              @MattSpeller said:

                              @creayt That'd be a nice machine regardless

                              Mostly while I become legit w/ system building and overclocking I want a large-screen laptop that can drive 3 screens at 60Hz, so that one seemed excellent for the price ( $1699 ). But it just seems self-indulgent to pick up a semi-cutting-edge-ish laptop like that when the new proc generation is less than 2 months away. Especially if they reduce heat substantially, this is a thin 17" workstation that probably gets pretty hot, so probably worth the wait twice over. It's running an GTX 970M 3GB I think, which w/ the quad core proc in that thin of a shell probably gets pretty steamy.

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                              • creaytC
                                creayt @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                From these numbers, the hardware RAID is coming back with better IOPS, better throughput and lower latency!

                                Taking the threads up past the default 2 to 16 ( it's a dual proc octocore so I chose 16, correct me if that's a poor choice ) gets the numbers almost exactly the same interestingly. Except, the hardware RAID had a latency that was about 50% worse than the worst latencey the Space had, and again this is 6 drives ( hardware ) versus 4.

                                16thread.png

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                                • MattSpellerM
                                  MattSpeller @creayt
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                                  @creayt metal coffee mug + the fan blowing hot air out the side... 😉

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                                  • creaytC
                                    creayt
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                                    Running Crystals then will do some write IO tests.

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                                    • creaytC
                                      creayt
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                                      The Storage Space seemed to beat the hardware in Crystal when considering disk quantity.

                                      crushy.jpg

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                                      • creaytC
                                        creayt
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                                        Hardware RAID appears to be walloping the Space w/ the SQLIO tool for write testing so far. Results to follow.

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                                        • creaytC
                                          creayt
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                                          8 thread writes @ 8k
                                          8threadwrite8k.png

                                          16 thread writes @ 64k
                                          16threadwrite64k.png

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                                          • creaytC
                                            creayt
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                                            Ok, who dares me to install 2012 on OBR ZERO just to run some Crystal and see what she can do?

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