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    • garak0410G
      garak0410
      last edited by garak0410

      OK...I admit...I do not "wheel and deal" or negotiate very well...

      My wife found her dream home (the layout and features)...

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      It is listed at 269K...been on the market for 220 days with no offers...might be due to the steep (steeper than it looks) driveway and the fact the bonus room is unfinished, so it is basically a walk up attic...we have a budget of no more than 229K. Our realtor said we may be surprised he may take 229K for it.

      Is she on drugs or is she right? Would he be willing to take a cut to get it sold? Don't want to get my wife's hopes up.

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      • MattSpellerM
        MattSpeller
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        1. I wish I could buy something like that here. I'm looking at 1000sqft condo for the same money.

        2. One does not get what one does not ask for. After 220 days I'd be losing my shit if it wasn't sold and no one was living in it. YMMV.

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        • garak0410G
          garak0410 @MattSpeller
          last edited by

          @MattSpeller said:

          1. I wish I could buy something like that here. I'm looking at 1000sqft condo for the same money.

          2. One does not get what one does not ask for. After 220 days I'd be losing my shit if it wasn't sold and no one was living in it. YMMV.

          We will ask then but lower so get in up to 229. 🙂

          The driveway still bothers me...LOL

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          • MattSpellerM
            MattSpeller @garak0410
            last edited by

            @garak0410 said:

            The driveway still bothers me...

            Dude, turkey bowling in the winter! Aim for your neighbours garbage cans.

            Get a big ass bag of rock salt after you're done bowling and dump 80% at the top. It'll melt and slide down the driveway.

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            • coliverC
              coliver
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              220 days really isn't that much for a home to be listed. We looked at 14 houses (upstate/central NY) and I think only one of them was less than 100 days. That may be different for your area but the market around here is very slow.

              Realtors around here tend to over inflate pricing and tack on an additional 20-30% on top of what the seller is looking for. Were I you, I would start at $210k, then work your way up from there. One of the things to keep in mind, even if it is the perfect house you don't need it there are always more "perfect" houses coming on the market everyday, don't be afraid to walk away if they are unreasonable.

              I would also have your realtor do a search for recently sold properties in the area (same school district/town) that have the same features. This will give you an idea on a realistic pricing and allow you to talk the sellers down.

              Any offer you make ensure it is contingent on a home inspection.

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              • garak0410G
                garak0410 @MattSpeller
                last edited by

                @MattSpeller said:

                @garak0410 said:

                The driveway still bothers me...

                Dude, turkey bowling in the winter! Aim for your neighbours garbage cans.

                Get a big ass bag of rock salt after you're done bowling and dump 80% at the top. It'll melt and slide down the driveway.

                Believe me, we've considered that...we do get more ice than snow here in Arkansas. Even if we parked cars on the street before a winter storm, we would have to slide to our cars.

                IF we got this home, we would consider putting in stairs from curb to driveway with a rail...

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @garak0410
                  last edited by

                  @garak0410 said:

                  @MattSpeller said:

                  1. I wish I could buy something like that here. I'm looking at 1000sqft condo for the same money.

                  2. One does not get what one does not ask for. After 220 days I'd be losing my shit if it wasn't sold and no one was living in it. YMMV.

                  We will ask then but lower so get in up to 229. 🙂

                  The driveway still bothers me...LOL

                  What is the grade on that driveway? Looks crazy steep.

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                  • garak0410G
                    garak0410 @coliver
                    last edited by

                    @coliver said:

                    220 days really isn't that much for a home to be listed. We looked at 14 houses (upstate/central NY) and I think only one of them was less than 100 days. That may be different for your area but the market around here is very slow.

                    Realtors around here tend to over inflate pricing and tack on an additional 20-30% on top of what the seller is looking for. Were I you, I would start at $210k, then work your way up from there. One of the things to keep in mind, even if it is the perfect house you don't need it there are always more "perfect" houses coming on the market everyday, don't be afraid to walk away if they are unreasonable.

                    I would also have your realtor do a search for recently sold properties in the area (same school district/town) that have the same features. This will give you an idea on a realistic pricing and allow you to talk the sellers down.

                    Any offer you make ensure it is contingent on a home inspection.

                    Realtor is running a comp right now... 😄

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @garak0410
                      last edited by

                      @garak0410 said:

                      @coliver said:

                      220 days really isn't that much for a home to be listed. We looked at 14 houses (upstate/central NY) and I think only one of them was less than 100 days. That may be different for your area but the market around here is very slow.

                      Realtors around here tend to over inflate pricing and tack on an additional 20-30% on top of what the seller is looking for. Were I you, I would start at $210k, then work your way up from there. One of the things to keep in mind, even if it is the perfect house you don't need it there are always more "perfect" houses coming on the market everyday, don't be afraid to walk away if they are unreasonable.

                      I would also have your realtor do a search for recently sold properties in the area (same school district/town) that have the same features. This will give you an idea on a realistic pricing and allow you to talk the sellers down.

                      Any offer you make ensure it is contingent on a home inspection.

                      Realtor is running a comp right now... 😄

                      Good that is one of the most valuable tools when doing a negotiation. Do you have a good lawyer?

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                      • garak0410G
                        garak0410 @coliver
                        last edited by garak0410

                        @coliver said:

                        @garak0410 said:

                        @MattSpeller said:

                        1. I wish I could buy something like that here. I'm looking at 1000sqft condo for the same money.

                        2. One does not get what one does not ask for. After 220 days I'd be losing my shit if it wasn't sold and no one was living in it. YMMV.

                        We will ask then but lower so get in up to 229. 🙂

                        The driveway still bothers me...LOL

                        What is the grade on that driveway? Looks crazy steep.

                        I'll see if we can get the grade on it. Realtor's husband tested the drive way...he had his rear right wheel off the ground on his attempt up the driveway...he backed up and went forward and twice he almost took his front bumper off...he finally turned hard toward mailbox and made it...he was in that white Journey in the picture...

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                        • garak0410G
                          garak0410 @coliver
                          last edited by

                          @coliver said:

                          @garak0410 said:

                          @coliver said:

                          220 days really isn't that much for a home to be listed. We looked at 14 houses (upstate/central NY) and I think only one of them was less than 100 days. That may be different for your area but the market around here is very slow.

                          Realtors around here tend to over inflate pricing and tack on an additional 20-30% on top of what the seller is looking for. Were I you, I would start at $210k, then work your way up from there. One of the things to keep in mind, even if it is the perfect house you don't need it there are always more "perfect" houses coming on the market everyday, don't be afraid to walk away if they are unreasonable.

                          I would also have your realtor do a search for recently sold properties in the area (same school district/town) that have the same features. This will give you an idea on a realistic pricing and allow you to talk the sellers down.

                          Any offer you make ensure it is contingent on a home inspection.

                          Realtor is running a comp right now... 😄

                          Good that is one of the most valuable tools when doing a negotiation. Do you have a good lawyer?

                          Nope, no lawyer. But owner of our company and his son are lawyers...LOL

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @garak0410
                            last edited by

                            @garak0410 said:

                            @coliver said:

                            @garak0410 said:

                            @MattSpeller said:

                            1. I wish I could buy something like that here. I'm looking at 1000sqft condo for the same money.

                            2. One does not get what one does not ask for. After 220 days I'd be losing my shit if it wasn't sold and no one was living in it. YMMV.

                            We will ask then but lower so get in up to 229. 🙂

                            The driveway still bothers me...LOL

                            What is the grade on that driveway? Looks crazy steep.

                            I'll see if we can get the grade on it. Realtor's husband tested the drive way...he had his rear right wheel off the ground on his attempt up the driveway...he backed up and went forward and twice he almost too his front bumper off...he finally turned hard toward mailbox and made it...he was in that white Journey in the picture...

                            Wow... that was really bad planning on the developers part. I can't think of a way to fix it without seriously cutting into your usable grass. If/when you move in consider making/installing a stone/brick staircase along side the driveway. That will make it much easier to walk-up and down.

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                            • garak0410G
                              garak0410 @coliver
                              last edited by

                              @coliver said:

                              @garak0410 said:

                              @coliver said:

                              @garak0410 said:

                              @MattSpeller said:

                              1. I wish I could buy something like that here. I'm looking at 1000sqft condo for the same money.

                              2. One does not get what one does not ask for. After 220 days I'd be losing my shit if it wasn't sold and no one was living in it. YMMV.

                              We will ask then but lower so get in up to 229. 🙂

                              The driveway still bothers me...LOL

                              What is the grade on that driveway? Looks crazy steep.

                              I'll see if we can get the grade on it. Realtor's husband tested the drive way...he had his rear right wheel off the ground on his attempt up the driveway...he backed up and went forward and twice he almost too his front bumper off...he finally turned hard toward mailbox and made it...he was in that white Journey in the picture...

                              Wow... that was really bad planning on the developers part. I can't think of a way to fix it without seriously cutting into your usable grass. If/when you move in consider making/installing a stone/brick staircase along side the driveway. That will make it much easier to walk-up and down.

                              Yep...already in the plan IF we do this...the lot next to it on the left is very small but for sale to wedge in another home...too bad we couldn't afford it to redirect the driveway some...

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver
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                                Were you approved for 229K$ Or are you setting that budget yourself? If you set it yourself good job... that approved stuff is BS, it doesn't take into account other expenses like heat/food/water/sewage.

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                                • garak0410G
                                  garak0410 @coliver
                                  last edited by

                                  @coliver said:

                                  Were you approved for 229K$ Or are you setting that budget yourself? If you set it yourself good job... that approved stuff is BS, it doesn't take into account other expenses like heat/food/water/sewage.

                                  We were pre-approved for the 269K asking price...but payment was sticker shock to me...well, I knew it would be high but the reality of it...that's even with some money down and 3.75 % rate.

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                                  • H
                                    hubtechagain
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                                    @garak0410 said:

                                    Yep...already in the plan IF we do this...the lot next to it on the left is very small but for sale to wedge in another home...too bad we couldn't afford it to redirect the driveway some...

                                    For sure get comps always get comps! unfinished space would take away from value for most. owner may have over payed and is hoping to recoup losses. buy a truck, then you wont have to worry about the driveway 🙂 plus you look cooler in a truck.

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                                    • H
                                      hubtechagain
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                                      as far as price drop...that would be nice to drop from 270 to 230. depending on the market, it's possible. we bought a 265k house for 245 and thought that was very good. but the owner had the house marked up way too high.

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                                      • NicN
                                        Nic
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                                        Let your realtor do the negotiating - that's what they are paid for and good at. And as the buyer, the seller picks up the tab so you don't gain anything by skipping working with a realtor.

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                                          hubtechagain
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                                          realtors are....IMO pretty slimy. it's in their best interest to get the highest price you're willing to pay...

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                                          • DanpD
                                            Danp
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                                            Yeah... the realtor actually works for the seller, not the buyer.

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