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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said:

      @Aaron-Studer said:

      Why can we just have 1 version of windows? 😞

      You could call it, Windows.

      Simple.

      I agree!

      If they need to charge more for businesses, then create more CAL types and raise the prices there!

      CALs aren't tied to the same things, it would change how much things costs to different people.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @A Former User
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        @thecreativeone91 said:

        I've rarely purchased it within 90days. I always paid yearly for the volume licenses /SA for every machine. I've just always bought computer with professional on them anyway.

        Can't upgrade to pro, only from pro.

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          A Former User @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said:

          @Aaron-Studer said:

          Why can we just have 1 version of windows? 😞

          You could call it, Windows.

          Simple.

          I agree!

          If they need to charge more for businesses, then create more CAL types and raise the prices there!

          Please don't add more/change CALs.

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          • ?
            A Former User @scottalanmiller
            last edited by A Former User

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @thecreativeone91 said:

            I've rarely purchased it within 90days. I always paid yearly for the volume licenses /SA for every machine. I've just always bought computer with professional on them anyway.

            Can't upgrade to pro, only from pro.

            Huh? The computer would have professional oem and volume is enterprise. Though enterprise allows you to install pro as well if you'd like for some reason.

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            • ?
              A Former User @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said:

              I agree!

              If they need to charge more for businesses, then create more CAL types and raise the prices there!

              Agreed!!!

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @A Former User
                last edited by

                @thecreativeone91 said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @thecreativeone91 said:

                I've rarely purchased it within 90days. I always paid yearly for the volume licenses /SA for every machine. I've just always bought computer with professional on them anyway.

                Can't upgrade to pro, only from pro.

                Huh? The computer would have professional and volume is enterprise. Though enterprise allows you to install pro as well if you'd like for some reason.

                Exactly, to get Enterprise you have to have already bought Pro on the desktop (or full retail box.)

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                • ?
                  A Former User @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller yes. That's what I said.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
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                    But buying Software Assurance isn't what gives you the right to run Pro, you already have that right from the OEM license.

                    If you buy SA for that machine and don't use Enterprise edition, then you're basically only gaining future upgrade rights (moving from 7 to 8 or 8.1 for example).

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                    • ?
                      A Former User @A Former User
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                      @thecreativeone91 said:

                      Please don't add more/change CALs.

                      Agreed. Keep the CALS the same, just raise the price.

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                      • ?
                        A Former User @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender buying the volume license does as well. Not just the OEM. Has nothing to do with SA. Downgrade rights are seperste from SA.

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                        • handsofqwertyH
                          handsofqwerty
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                          The Education one is a bit interesting. I wonder if that's to allow them to give special pricing to educational institutions.

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                          • ?
                            A Former User @handsofqwerty
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                            @handsofqwerty said:

                            The Education one is a bit interesting. I wonder if that's to allow them to give special pricing to educational institutions.

                            Likely. The way that do with education and libraries anyway wouldn't be surprise if it was free or a couple of bucks.

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                            • handsofqwertyH
                              handsofqwerty @A Former User
                              last edited by

                              @thecreativeone91 said:

                              @handsofqwerty said:

                              The Education one is a bit interesting. I wonder if that's to allow them to give special pricing to educational institutions.

                              Likely. The way that do with education and libraries anyway wouldn't be surprise if it was free or a couple of bucks.

                              That's kind of what I was thinking.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @A Former User
                                last edited by

                                @thecreativeone91 said:

                                @handsofqwerty said:

                                The Education one is a bit interesting. I wonder if that's to allow them to give special pricing to educational institutions.

                                Likely. The way that do with education and libraries anyway wouldn't be surprise if it was free or a couple of bucks.

                                So schools can get the educational version which is basically the Enterprise version but at a discounted rate, you think?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @thecreativeone91 said:

                                  @handsofqwerty said:

                                  The Education one is a bit interesting. I wonder if that's to allow them to give special pricing to educational institutions.

                                  Likely. The way that do with education and libraries anyway wouldn't be surprise if it was free or a couple of bucks.

                                  So schools can get the educational version which is basically the Enterprise version but at a discounted rate, you think?

                                  That doesn't make sense to me. They could just discount for education like they always have to do that more easily if that was the goal.

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                                  • dafyreD
                                    dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller Since when does Microsoft do things that make sense?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      Most of the time, actually. I'm not sure why everyone thinks that they are going to do crazy, irrational things all the time. What licensing insanity is everyone thinking of that is prompting this? Sure, their products are expensive and sometimes difficult to license, but other than it taking work "for you" to track and it making them money none of it seems irrational.

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                                        A Former User @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @thecreativeone91 said:

                                        @handsofqwerty said:

                                        The Education one is a bit interesting. I wonder if that's to allow them to give special pricing to educational institutions.

                                        Likely. The way that do with education and libraries anyway wouldn't be surprise if it was free or a couple of bucks.

                                        So schools can get the educational version which is basically the Enterprise version but at a discounted rate, you think?

                                        That doesn't make sense to me. They could just discount for education like they always have to do that more easily if that was the goal.

                                        Easier to make sure license are used where they should be.same reason many software companies already put that is academic version in the title bar.

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by dafyre

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          Most of the time, actually. I'm not sure why everyone thinks that they are going to do crazy, irrational things all the time. What licensing insanity is everyone thinking of that is prompting this? Sure, their products are expensive and sometimes difficult to license, but other than it taking work "for you" to track and it making them money none of it seems irrational.

                                          I don't think they do crazy or irrational things all of the time... But Why should there be 3 versions of windows for DEKSTOP PCs? I like what Apple did... The "server os" is nothing but the desktop os with individual server functions sold as cheap addons... but I digress.

                                          If your products are difficult to license then you are doing it wrong (for the customers), even if it is making you money.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                            @dafyre said:

                                            I like what Apple did... The "server os" is nothing.

                                            FTFY.

                                            Apple Server is completely worthless. It does nothing. There is a reason that it is basically free. Microsoft produces a ton of stuff that is only available in their server product. Apple does nothing like that.

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