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    • thanksajdotcomT
      thanksajdotcom @Carnival Boy
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      @Carnival-Boy said:

      So the MangoLassi Venture Capital arm has given is a unaminous thumbs down. I now expect Google to buy it for $10bn in 12 months time 🙂

      Why would Google buy something from Youtube when it owns Youtube?

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      • coliverC
        coliver @Carnival Boy
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        @Carnival-Boy said:

        So the MangoLassi Venture Capital arm has given is a unaminous thumbs down. I now expect Google to buy it for $10bn in 12 months time 🙂

        Maybe not Google... Microsoft though has been making some great investments of late....

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        • coliverC
          coliver @thanksajdotcom
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          @thanksajdotcom said:

          @Carnival-Boy said:

          So the MangoLassi Venture Capital arm has given is a unaminous thumbs down. I now expect Google to buy it for $10bn in 12 months time 🙂

          Why would Google buy something from Youtube when it owns Youtube?

          Not a Youtube/Google company, it is a startup from a former Hulu exec.

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          • thanksajdotcomT
            thanksajdotcom @coliver
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            @coliver said:

            @thanksajdotcom said:

            @Carnival-Boy said:

            So the MangoLassi Venture Capital arm has given is a unaminous thumbs down. I now expect Google to buy it for $10bn in 12 months time 🙂

            Why would Google buy something from Youtube when it owns Youtube?

            Not a Youtube/Google company, it is a startup from a former Hulu exec.

            Oh ok. I saw it was a former Hulu exec but missed it wasn't YouTube actually doing it.

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            • coliverC
              coliver
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              Although it will be interesting to see how this goes. It is another attempt to properly monetize content distribution that resembles premium cable channels. I'm not sure how many creators would be willing to have another entity, on top of Google, take a cut from their already small ad-revenue stream.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
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                Tech News 2Night talked about this yesterday. The host asked the guest story writer why would people want this since almost anything on Youtube can often be found in many other locations around the web.

                The guest author said that Vessel content providers will provide content in Vessel days or weeks before other free sites (stated above), and new content that amounts to daily news style snips of events that millennials would rather watch than the whole event. The example given was a hockey game. Instead of having to watch a whole hockey game, it will be edited down to the 2-3 good goals, or maybe a 'great' save and a score.

                Really? Millennials don't want to watch the game anymore... just give you the highlights?

                AJ is that true? LOL Sorry bro, had to pick.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @Dashrender
                  last edited by coliver

                  @Dashrender said:

                  Tech News 2Night talked about this yesterday. The host asked the guest story writer why would people want this since almost anything on Youtube can often be found in many other locations around the web.

                  The guest author said that Vessel content providers will provide content in Vessel days or weeks before other free sites (stated above), and new content that amounts to daily news style snips of events that millennials would rather watch than the whole event. The example given was a hockey game. Instead of having to watch a whole hockey game, it will be edited down to the 2-3 good goals, or maybe a 'great' save and a score.

                  Really? Millennials don't want to watch the game anymore... just give you the highlights?

                  AJ is that true? LOL Sorry bro, had to pick.

                  I'd say this is probably an accurate statement for some people who just want to know what others are talking about on the facebooks the next day. Although I dislike the negative connotations that millenial now has/always had.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
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                    Aren't those snippets called, wait for it.. the sports, etc news?

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said:

                      Aren't those snippets called, wait for it.. the sports, etc news?

                      Yep... So they are trying to act more like a broadcast TV station where they have different segments, entertainment, news, movies, etc...

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                      • thanksajdotcomT
                        thanksajdotcom @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        Tech News 2Night talked about this yesterday. The host asked the guest story writer why would people want this since almost anything on Youtube can often be found in many other locations around the web.

                        The guest author said that Vessel content providers will provide content in Vessel days or weeks before other free sites (stated above), and new content that amounts to daily news style snips of events that millennials would rather watch than the whole event. The example given was a hockey game. Instead of having to watch a whole hockey game, it will be edited down to the 2-3 good goals, or maybe a 'great' save and a score.

                        Really? Millennials don't want to watch the game anymore... just give you the highlights?

                        AJ is that true? LOL Sorry bro, had to pick.

                        Not at all. I love watching a sports game, like basketball, football, or baseball from start to finish. I'm usually multi-tasking while I'm doing it, but I watch it start to finish.

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                        • nadnerBN
                          nadnerB @thanksajdotcom
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                          @thanksajdotcom said:

                          @Carnival-Boy said:

                          So the MangoLassi Venture Capital arm has given is a unaminous thumbs down. I now expect Google to buy it for $10bn in 12 months time 🙂

                          Why would Google buy something from Youtube when it owns Youtube?

                          Well, look at it this way, Google bought youtube 10(+?) years ago and it still hasn't turned a profit
                          http://www.wsj.com/articles/viewers-dont-add-up-to-profit-for-youtube-1424897967

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @nadnerB
                            last edited by

                            @nadnerB said:

                            @thanksajdotcom said:

                            @Carnival-Boy said:

                            So the MangoLassi Venture Capital arm has given is a unaminous thumbs down. I now expect Google to buy it for $10bn in 12 months time 🙂

                            Why would Google buy something from Youtube when it owns Youtube?

                            Well, look at it this way, Google bought youtube 10(+?) years ago and it still hasn't turned a profit
                            http://www.wsj.com/articles/viewers-dont-add-up-to-profit-for-youtube-1424897967

                            That has to be changing now though... now that they have content that people subscribe to, etc.. with the pay the content creators model they have now...

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                            • C
                              Carnival Boy
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                              Blimey. I assumed Youtube was profitable. I will probably sign-up for an ad-free Youtube subscription when/if they finally make it available. My son's viewing is probably 60% Youtube, 20% Netflix, 20% terrestrial.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @coliver
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                                @coliver said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                Aren't those snippets called, wait for it.. the sports, etc news?

                                Yep... So they are trying to act more like a broadcast TV station where they have different segments, entertainment, news, movies, etc...

                                I just don't see people paying for this... but then again we pay for water in the c-stores now... so what do I know?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  c-stores?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @nadnerB
                                    last edited by

                                    @nadnerB said:

                                    @thanksajdotcom said:

                                    @Carnival-Boy said:

                                    So the MangoLassi Venture Capital arm has given is a unaminous thumbs down. I now expect Google to buy it for $10bn in 12 months time 🙂

                                    Why would Google buy something from Youtube when it owns Youtube?

                                    Well, look at it this way, Google bought youtube 10(+?) years ago and it still hasn't turned a profit
                                    http://www.wsj.com/articles/viewers-dont-add-up-to-profit-for-youtube-1424897967

                                    With the amount of ads that it shows, how can it not be profitable?

                                    I don't trust anything from WSJ. That's not a reputable paper to people in the know. I know people who work there and they can't give subscriptions away internally. It's nothing but a worthless ad platform. Articles are all BS in there.

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @nadnerB
                                      last edited by coliver

                                      @nadnerB said:

                                      @thanksajdotcom said:

                                      @Carnival-Boy said:

                                      So the MangoLassi Venture Capital arm has given is a unaminous thumbs down. I now expect Google to buy it for $10bn in 12 months time 🙂

                                      Why would Google buy something from Youtube when it owns Youtube?

                                      Well, look at it this way, Google bought youtube 10(+?) years ago and it still hasn't turned a profit
                                      http://www.wsj.com/articles/viewers-dont-add-up-to-profit-for-youtube-1424897967

                                      Every article that talks about this is using the WSJ as its source. I haven't seen anything to corroborate it. From a few articles it looks like Youtube became profitable to Google in late 2010.... although there doesn't appear to be any official numbers released.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        c-stores?

                                        Convenience stores like 7-11

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @coliver
                                          last edited by

                                          @coliver said:

                                          @nadnerB said:

                                          @thanksajdotcom said:

                                          @Carnival-Boy said:

                                          So the MangoLassi Venture Capital arm has given is a unaminous thumbs down. I now expect Google to buy it for $10bn in 12 months time 🙂

                                          Why would Google buy something from Youtube when it owns Youtube?

                                          Well, look at it this way, Google bought youtube 10(+?) years ago and it still hasn't turned a profit
                                          http://www.wsj.com/articles/viewers-dont-add-up-to-profit-for-youtube-1424897967

                                          Every article that talks about this is using the WSJ as its source. I haven't seen anything to corroborate it. From a few articles it looks like Youtube became profitable to Google in late 2010.... although there doesn't appear to be any official numbers released.

                                          I remember hearing that Youtube wasn't profitable 5+ years ago... Considering Scott's words.. I'm guessing Google just never bothered to announce anything officially different, so that old story just gets recirculated.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            c-stores?

                                            Convenience stores like 7-11

                                            Oh!

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