What Is Your CloudatCost Project?
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@Aaron-Studer said:
@scottalanmiller This doesn't concern you?
If you are using for production machines it should be of concern.. but that's not really what C@C is for.
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@Aaron-Studer said:
@scottalanmiller This doesn't concern you?
The BBB concerns me. I've caught them doing shady stuff before. The BBB is a scam where businesses pay an extortion fee for a clean record. I would never look at that site. I tried to report someone once there and the BBB had this whole thing set up to make sure a paying customer would never get a bad review. So I tried to report the BBB itself to see what would happen. The BBB listed itself as a bait and tackle shop in Texas.
So.... I know how that thing works.
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@Aaron-Studer said:
@scottalanmiller This doesn't concern you?
I don't see anything negative there at all. What do you suppose would concern me? No bad reviews, not accredited. That's all positive. They've not paid for a fake clean record, that points to them being above board and trustworthy. It doesn't mean that, it could also just mean that they are being cheap or that they've never heard of the BBB - seriously, whose heard of the BBB in the last decade?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Aaron-Studer said:
@scottalanmiller This doesn't concern you?
The BBB concerns me. I've caught them doing shady stuff before. The BBB is a scam where businesses pay an extortion fee for a clean record. I would never look at that site. I tried to report someone once there and the BBB had this whole thing set up to make sure a paying customer would never get a bad review. So I tried to report the BBB itself to see what would happen. The BBB listed itself as a bait and tackle shop in Texas.
So.... I know how that thing works.
There's been a 20/20 investigation reporting on them being a scam before. I've filed reports and nothing happens.
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Glad I'm not the only one who thought the BBB was a scam.
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That's awesome. The BBB has done such a good job of hoodwinking everyone that people always lay the "conspiracy theorist" label on me every time I point out the obvious. How anyone whose aware of what they are (pay to be a business member) could think that they are anything else really surprises me. And why people think that it takes a conspiracy for one business to take money for giving out good data blows my mind. There is no conspiracy, no cover up, just good marketing and money exchanged for favorable reviews. It's not a conspiracy, it's the simplest and most obvious business model.
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@scottalanmiller said:
That's awesome. The BBB has done such a good job of hoodwinking everyone that people always lay the "conspiracy theorist" label on me every time I point out the obvious. How anyone whose aware of what they are (pay to be a business member) could think that they are anything else really surprises me. And why people think that it takes a conspiracy for one business to take money for giving out good data blows my mind. There is no conspiracy, no cover up, just good marketing and money exchanged for favorable reviews. It's not a conspiracy, it's the simplest and most obvious business model.
It would only make sense if the consumers pay to file claims and etc. of course they are going to side with the ones paying or they would just quit paying.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
It would only make sense if the consumers pay to file claims and etc. of course they are going to side with the ones paying or they would just quit paying.
Yeah, what else would the money be being exchange for? That's the only benefit that paying that money could provide.
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If you don't pay, they still list you and try to collect bad reports about you.
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@scottalanmiller said:
If you don't pay, they still list you and try to collect bad reports about you.
The vast majority of non-profits have major money scams. Look at Goodwill CEO's/executive pays. United Way, etc.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
The vast majority of non-profits have major money scams. Look at Goodwill CEO's/executive pays. United Way, etc.
It's true. I generally assume that things are a scam when I hear that something is a non-profit. Not all are, of course, but for-profits have obvious goals. Non-profits have unclear goals and that leads to some serious devious stuff. Even those intended to be truly altruistic have to hire staff and employees, by definition, are motivated by money or else they would be volunteers. And non-profits don't motivate with money well, leaving the company as an organization in a continuous state of being ripe for other motivations to take over.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thecreativeone91 said:
The vast majority of non-profits have major money scams. Look at Goodwill CEO's/executive pays. United Way, etc.
It's true. I generally assume that things are a scam when I hear that something is a non-profit. Not all are, of course, but for-profits have obvious goals. Non-profits have unclear goals and that leads to some serious devious stuff. Even those intended to be truly altruistic have to hire staff and employees, by definition, are motivated by money or else they would be volunteers. And non-profits don't motivate with money well, leaving the company as an organization in a continuous state of being ripe for other motivations to take over.
All our hospitals around here are non-profit. Yet there is nothing cheaper about it. It's just a tax break, nothing more.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
The vast majority of non-profits have major money scams. Look at Goodwill CEO's/executive pays. United Way, etc.
I've got a sweet deal for you, just send us 100's of thousands of dollars and we'll give you an olympic team. Valid only in Canada, limited time opportunity, also appreciate core hardware (servers, switches, AP's, etc).
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@MattSpeller said:
@thecreativeone91 said:
The vast majority of non-profits have major money scams. Look at Goodwill CEO's/executive pays. United Way, etc.
I've got a sweet deal for you, just send us 100's of thousands of dollars and we'll give you an olympic team. Valid only in Canada, limited time opportunity, also appreciate core hardware (servers, switches, AP's, etc).
Monopoly money?
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@thecreativeone91 at close to $0.75/USD that's closer to true than I like.
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@MattSpeller said:
@thecreativeone91 at close to $0.75/USD that's closer to true than I like.
That's how it was all through my childhood. Shopping in Canada was awesome.
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@scottalanmiller Get up here with all your friends and family and spend money, please! - All of Canada
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thecreativeone91 said:
The vast majority of non-profits have major money scams. Look at Goodwill CEO's/executive pays. United Way, etc.
It's true. I generally assume that things are a scam when I hear that something is a non-profit. Not all are, of course, but for-profits have obvious goals. Non-profits have unclear goals and that leads to some serious devious stuff. Even those intended to be truly altruistic have to hire staff and employees, by definition, are motivated by money or else they would be volunteers. And non-profits don't motivate with money well, leaving the company as an organization in a continuous state of being ripe for other motivations to take over.
All our hospitals around here are non-profit. Yet there is nothing cheaper about it. It's just a tax break, nothing more.
I've been trying to figure this one out too. Around here most hospitals are also associated with a church (the caolithic church) who is suppose to be the epitome of altruistism, instead they are currently in a battle with Blue Cross Blue Shield over payouts.
Another hospital system here had to build a brand new hospital that we don't need just to spend the millions in excess they had to maintain their non-profit status. That was 10 years ago.. now they've shipped off their data center services to KC to spend even more money...
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Had to reimage both my Linux servers, so I'm going to try CentOS 7 for my new Plex instance.
