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    Paypal, Visa/Mastercard block Mega.co.nz for using encryption.

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      This suggests that either all hospitals do not encrypt data, or that they cannot take credit cards or that this is discrimination.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        or that this is discrimination.

        It was Leahy, one of the big proponents of SOPA/PIPA

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        • coliverC
          coliver
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          Sounds suspiciously like a certain lobbying group had a hand in this...

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          • NicN
            Nic @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch said:

            /sigh

            Crypto currencies are going to profit on this.

            Yeah, there's nothing better to push bitcoin on people than forbidding them from doing business with someone.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              This suggests that either all hospitals do not encrypt data, or that they cannot take credit cards or that this is discrimination.

              Nah - it indicates that hospitals do not use user controlled end to end encryption (which of course they don't).

              But this is definitely discrimination. The NSA and FBI, etc, etc are all pushing hard to force vendors to provide secondary access that is 'supposed' to be for law enforcement use only. Unfortunately if you aren't the only one in control of your keys, you have no way of knowing who else does or doesn't access your data.

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                A Former User @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                This suggests that either all hospitals do not encrypt data, or that they cannot take credit cards or that this is discrimination.

                Nah - it indicates that hospitals do not use user controlled end to end encryption (which of course they don't).

                But this is definitely discrimination. The NSA and FBI, etc, etc are all pushing hard to force vendors to provide secondary access that is 'supposed' to be for law enforcement use only. Unfortunately if you aren't the only one in control of your keys, you have no way of knowing who else does or doesn't access your data.

                Yeah but, without warrent's what right do they have to it? I don't think most people using encryption are really doing illegal or illicit activities, just they like to make it sound like that so the public will want people to give them up to the government.

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                • MattSpellerM
                  MattSpeller
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                  Jeeves! Warm up the litigation cannon!!!!!!!

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @A Former User
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                    @thecreativeone91 said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    This suggests that either all hospitals do not encrypt data, or that they cannot take credit cards or that this is discrimination.

                    Nah - it indicates that hospitals do not use user controlled end to end encryption (which of course they don't).

                    But this is definitely discrimination. The NSA and FBI, etc, etc are all pushing hard to force vendors to provide secondary access that is 'supposed' to be for law enforcement use only. Unfortunately if you aren't the only one in control of your keys, you have no way of knowing who else does or doesn't access your data.

                    Yeah but, without warrent's what right do they have to it? I don't think most people using encryption are really doing illegal or illicit activities, just they like to make it sound like that so the public will want people to give them up to the government.

                    They have no right to it, of course! But as you mention the NSA and other three letter agencies don't give a shit about legal vs illegal. The sim card data theft is proof of that, not to mention the countless other violations.

                    The sad thing is either the media is bought and paid for, or completely uneducated (ok probably both) and they aren't making a big enough deal out of this. Couple that with the mass public's complete lack of care about anything that doesn't directly effect them and you have a government that only cares about keeping itself in and it's cronies in power and the situation we have today.

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                    • sjohnsonscS
                      sjohnsonsc @Nic
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                      @Nic The problem with Bitcoin is they're probably going out. I don't remember if it was China or somewhere in Europe they ran away with several Millions from customers.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @sjohnsonsc
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                        @sjohnsonsc said:

                        @Nic The problem with Bitcoin is they're probably going out. I don't remember if it was China or somewhere in Europe they ran away with several Millions from customers.

                        Bitcoin made off with the money? I've not heard anything about that. People have lost their own bitcoins, are you referring to Mt. Gox?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          The Mt. Gox loss was pretty small compared to recently uncovered losses of traditional currency to Russian hackers.

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                          • sjohnsonscS
                            sjohnsonsc @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller I might be slightly confused it was a news article that a currency shop supposedly run by BitCoin suddenly closed and ran with customers money. I'll try to find the article and post it.

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                            • sjohnsonscS
                              sjohnsonsc @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller Thank you for calling me out. I did some further research and found it was not BitCoin but MyCoin which was not proven to have any ties with BitCoin that fraud customers out of $400M. I apologize to all the readers of this feed, for not double checking my facts first. Again thank you Scott for calling it.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                Ah, that explains why I hadn't heard about it 🙂

                                Definitely a risk, small unregulated financials handling a lot of these transactions.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  And welcome to MangoLassi, by the way!

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
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                                    That's the problem with keeping your currency (any currency) in someone else's control. Sadly I don't there there is a way to get away from this.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      That's the problem with keeping your currency (any currency) in someone else's control. Sadly I don't there there is a way to get away from this.

                                      That's how any currency is. It's always in "everyone's" control.

                                      I did currency trading for a decade 😉

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
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                                        Yeah I realize I was digging myself into a bad statement, but still decided to post it, probably should have just deleted it.

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