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    • notverypunnyN
      notverypunny @PhlipElder
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      @PhlipElder said in Multiple Tombstoned DC's:

      @Fredtx said in Multiple Tombstoned DC's:

      @notverypunny said in Multiple Tombstoned DC's:

      @Fredtx does the isolated site still exist in Sites and Services? What's the plan for that location if the ideal end goal is to have the vpn tunnel down and no site to site connection? (apologies if this was already covered)

      Yes, the site still exist. I'm just confused as to why the KCC is adding the connection to the link when there is no network connectivity to that site. From my understanding, the whole purpose of the KCC is to create connections with the best paths, which this one would NOT be the best path since there's no network connectivity.

      Is the defunct site's subnet set up in Sites? That's what is going to need to be changed or removed.

      This is where my idea was headed, but wanted make sure that the OP realized that without AD connectivity it's going to be entirely off the domain and that his other domain machines are going to tombstone as well (if they haven't already)

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      • FredtxF
        Fredtx @PhlipElder
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        @PhlipElder said in Multiple Tombstoned DC's:

        @Fredtx said in Multiple Tombstoned DC's:

        @notverypunny said in Multiple Tombstoned DC's:

        @Fredtx does the isolated site still exist in Sites and Services? What's the plan for that location if the ideal end goal is to have the vpn tunnel down and no site to site connection? (apologies if this was already covered)

        Yes, the site still exist. I'm just confused as to why the KCC is adding the connection to the link when there is no network connectivity to that site. From my understanding, the whole purpose of the KCC is to create connections with the best paths, which this one would NOT be the best path since there's no network connectivity.

        Is the defunct site's subnet set up in Sites? That's what is going to need to be changed or removed.

        Yes, it's setup in Sites with the correct subnet as well.

        Also, I see all the sites are listed in the Sites/Inter-Site Transports/IP/Defaultipsite link properties. Is that normal? Highlands (defunct site) does have the appropriate subnet configured as I mentioned.

        See below

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        • dbeatoD
          dbeato @Fredtx
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          @Fredtx I would just remove that site from being in Active Directory sites and services entirely.

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          • FredtxF
            Fredtx @dbeato
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            @dbeato said in Multiple Tombstoned DC's:

            I would just remove that site from being in Active Directory sites and services entirely.

            What would be the effects if I remove that site from ADSS? Would it still be able to have an inbound rep parter?

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            • FredtxF
              Fredtx @Fredtx
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              My colleague is saying we should have all the sites connected via a Mesh topology. That's 11 sites, and I feel like that would be too much overhead just for AD. Also, that would also decrease the network security by connected branch office LANS together via site vpn.

              I was thinking of having a Hub And Spoke topology to our main site, especially with the fact that our main site handles radius authentication for all the branch offices.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @Fredtx
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                @Fredtx If you are going to do VPN, then do hub and spoke for sure. Mesh of multiple locations like you have is simply asking for crypto to hit all the things.

                I mean your risk is already high by using insecure LAN methods, but yeah, why multiply it?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Fredtx
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                  @Fredtx said in Multiple Tombstoned DC's:

                  My colleague is saying we should have all the sites connected via a Mesh topology. That's 11 sites, and I feel like that would be too much overhead just for AD. Also, that would also decrease the network security by connected branch office LANS together via site vpn.

                  Yeah, that's huge risk, and huge complication, all just for AD (if it is really just for AD.)

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Fredtx
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                    @Fredtx said in Multiple Tombstoned DC's:

                    I was thinking of having a Hub And Spoke topology to our main site, especially with the fact that our main site handles radius authentication for all the branch offices.

                    Definitely helps, but the fundamentally flawed network design is still the core issue.

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                    • FredtxF
                      Fredtx @JaredBusch
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                      @JaredBusch said in Multiple Tombstoned DC's:

                      Mesh of multiple locations like you have is simply asking for crypto to hit all the things.

                      Exactly what I've been telling them.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Fredtx
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                        @Fredtx said in Multiple Tombstoned DC's:

                        @JaredBusch said in Multiple Tombstoned DC's:

                        Mesh of multiple locations like you have is simply asking for crypto to hit all the things.

                        Exactly what I've been telling them.

                        VPNs and AD the same. The mesh "should" not pose any threat because there should be nothing exposed over the mesh. But given the rest of the design, we can safely assume there are security holes everywhere and they are just trying to open more.

                        These are the flags that hackers look for for finding easy targets.

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