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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said:

      I asked the vendor about using SIP trunks, and they told me they only support specific vendors, etc. A lock lock type situation.

      Which vendor? If you switch to Asterisk you have no lockins. That alone is a killer feature.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
        last edited by Dashrender

        I don't know, once they said only our specific SIP providers I stopped listening.

        It was the same when Cox said they provide it, but they must provide all of the infrastructure as well, and I was like, what's the point? They said it was the only way they could guarantee good service.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said:

          It was the same when Cox said they provide it, but they must provide all of the infrastructure as well, and I was like, what's the point? They said it was the only way they could guarantee good service.

          Well you never get any service (email, phones, web hosting, DNS, etc.) from your ISP. So talking to Cox isn't a good place to start. You would want to talk to SIP trunk providers. If you go through Cox not only are you completely beholden to your ISP but you lose key VoIP features like unlimited portability, ISP failover, low cost, vendor independence, etc.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
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            Someone mentioned they liked Asterisk, any reason to use them over FreePBX? or others?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said:

              Someone mentioned they liked Asterisk, any reason to use them over FreePBX? or others?

              FreePBX, Ultimate PBX, Elastix, PIAF and many others are distros of Asterisk. Think of Asterisk like Linux. Everyone "talks" about using Linux but you never, ever just "get" Linux. You get a distro build on Linux like RHEL, Suse, CentOS, Ubuntu, etc. Same here. Think of Asterisk as a PBX kernel but you need a whole distro or else you are stuck building your own and that is a LOT of work. Normally it takes teams of people to pull that off.

              So when people say that they use Asterisk, they mean that they use one of the any Asterisk distros.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                Generally FreePBX would be the first choice, Elastix second, these days.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  Generally FreePBX would be the first choice, Elastix second, these days.

                  I'm interested in the new PIAF/Incredible PBX with all the Schmooze stuff removed.. It is on my task list to install it and give it a spin.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    Generally FreePBX would be the first choice, Elastix second, these days.

                    I'm interested in the new PIAF/Incredible PBX with all the Schmooze stuff removed.. It is on my task list to install it and give it a spin.

                    Yes, when I finally have free time (um.... if) I'd really like to take a look at that too.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @JaredBusch
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                      @JaredBusch said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      Generally FreePBX would be the first choice, Elastix second, these days.

                      I'm interested in the new PIAF/Incredible PBX with all the Schmooze stuff removed.. It is on my task list to install it and give it a spin.

                      I was going to look at that for my house, looks interesting. Although Schmooze has done a good job with the most recent FreePBX release.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @coliver
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                        @coliver said:

                        I was going to look at that for my house, looks interesting. Although Schmooze has done a good job with the most recent FreePBX release.

                        Do not misunderstand that I think the FreePBX platform is suddenly bad. It is a great platform. But they are also no longer an independent company. Sangoma may stay hands off or they may tweak things to not be so freely workable.

                        I tried the Asterisk @Home platform like 6 years ago (I think) and it was obviously an abandoned branch as switchvox had been out for a couple years by this point.

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch said:

                          @coliver said:

                          I was going to look at that for my house, looks interesting. Although Schmooze has done a good job with the most recent FreePBX release.

                          Do not misunderstand that I think the FreePBX platform is suddenly bad. It is a great platform. But they are also no longer an independent company. Sangoma may stay hands off or they may tweak things to not be so freely workable.

                          No that wasn't my impression at all. Isn't FreePBX released under the GNU Public license? If Sangoma were to change things for the worse someone would probably fork the distro and fix it.

                          I tried the Asterisk @Home platform like 6 years ago (I think) and it was obviously an abandoned branch as switchvox had been out for a couple years by this point.

                          Never tried Asterisk @Home, it just seems like Asterisk is a great solution for a home phone system. Especially since I can setup a SIP client on my fiance's iPad so she can walk around the house with it. Although wireless SIP device really aren't that expensive either.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            FreePBX is open source, yes. But forking it is a big pain. I think someone would move past it and make a competitor rather than forking it. It just isn't good enough to fork 🙂

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @coliver
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                              @coliver said:

                              Never tried Asterisk @Home...

                              That's a product name, not a reference to using it at home.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @coliver said:

                                Never tried Asterisk @Home...

                                That's a product name, not a reference to using it at home.

                                Yep, I got that.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  I use Asterisk at home and have for years. It has been great. And because we use an IVR to get to us, it blocks ALL spam calling. No auto-dialer gets through to us.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Pretty cool that everyone in the house gets their own voicemail too. So you don't leave voicemail for the house, but for a person in the house.

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by coliver

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      I use Asterisk at home and have for years. It has been great. And because we use an IVR to get to us, it blocks ALL spam calling. No auto-dialer gets through to us.

                                      I dabbled with it a bit, but never got into "production". It was just a fun project to work on. Though it seems like having a home phone would be a good idea.... since we just use our cell phones now.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        Yeah, we don't like being without a home phone. We use VoicePulse and get four lines for the house (which is overkill.) You can do a little cheaper with voip.ms too. It's such a cheap thing to do and such good IT skill development. It's a great project. And you can run in house or do it cheaply on a cloud provider and get important experience there too.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          It's important for us because we will be living abroad and people will still get unlimited calling to us using a US phone number. They don't have to worry about where we are or what number we are currently using.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            It's important for us because we will be living abroad and people will still get unlimited calling to us using a US phone number. They don't have to worry about where we are or what number we are currently using.

                                            In that event do you hook a client up to your cell phones too? In the event that you are out of the house?

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