Framework | Modularity hits laptops?
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I find this intriguing. I may have to finally upgrade my home machine (XPS13 circa 2014)
The product: https://frame.work/
Video Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rkTgPt3M4k -
I just heard about this on a podcast the other day.
By the time you include all the items you want - it ends up being nearly the same price as any class 1 vendor. I didn't see what the warranty on it was.
Who's really going to upgrade their laptop beyond SSD and RAM in it's given lifetime? By the time I feel the need for a new processor, I likely want a new case (laptop chassis) to go along with it.
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@dashrender said in Framework | Modularity hits laptops?:
Who's really going to upgrade their laptop beyond SSD and RAM in it's given lifetime? By the time I feel the need for a new processor, I likely want a new case (laptop chassis) to go along with it.
My cases actually last decades. I wondered the same thing but think that I'm a good candidate for this.
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@scottalanmiller said in Framework | Modularity hits laptops?:
@dashrender said in Framework | Modularity hits laptops?:
Who's really going to upgrade their laptop beyond SSD and RAM in it's given lifetime? By the time I feel the need for a new processor, I likely want a new case (laptop chassis) to go along with it.
My cases actually last decades. I wondered the same thing but think that I'm a good candidate for this.
I guess it all depends on the hinge. I've had some that were good and others no so much so.
I suppose 10 years for a chassis could be nice, do a processor upgrade 1/2 through... but I'd have to wonder about other architecture, wouldn't you have to replace damned near everything at 5 years to be on the newest or near newest stuff? then the question becomes, how much is a full new laptop from them compared to just the parts and now keeping your 5 year old PowerSupply?
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@dashrender I would upgrade my laptop to WiFi-6e if it were as simple and click-click-driver.
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@jclambert said in Framework | Modularity hits laptops?:
@dashrender I would upgrade my laptop to WiFi-6e if it were as simple and click-click-driver.
I'd have to check my current laptop, but my previous one - it was just that easy.
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That company is not going to be around in five years. Good luck finding any upgrades then.
The whole idea is flawed in too many ways to list.If you want to have your laptop for a number of years, just get one that can actually be opened and have components replaced. A lot of them can - almost everyone I'd say with exceptions such as apple. For example:
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@pete-s said in Framework | Modularity hits laptops?:
That company is not going to be around in five years. Good luck finding any upgrades then.
The whole idea is flawed in too many ways to list.If you want to have your laptop for a number of years, just get one that can actually be opened and have components replaced. A lot of them can - almost everyone I'd say with exceptions such as apple. For example:
I tend to agree with you. My old Lenovo, you know the one I got the same time Dominica won one from SpiceWorld - it was easy to upgrade the SSD or RAM, really the main components one would upgrade.
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@dashrender said in Framework | Modularity hits laptops?:
@pete-s said in Framework | Modularity hits laptops?:
That company is not going to be around in five years. Good luck finding any upgrades then.
The whole idea is flawed in too many ways to list.If you want to have your laptop for a number of years, just get one that can actually be opened and have components replaced. A lot of them can - almost everyone I'd say with exceptions such as apple. For example:
I tend to agree with you. My old Lenovo, you know the one I got the same time Dominica won one from SpiceWorld - it was easy to upgrade the SSD or RAM, really the main components one would upgrade.
Yeah, a lot of them are easy because laptops are made out of components anyway.
Here are videos of hundreds of laptops and how to open them and how to do upgrades:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpYZc4lOys6gtJj8-dr4pY1-m0yo_NYqn -
@pete-s said in Framework | Modularity hits laptops?:
@dashrender said in Framework | Modularity hits laptops?:
@pete-s said in Framework | Modularity hits laptops?:
That company is not going to be around in five years. Good luck finding any upgrades then.
The whole idea is flawed in too many ways to list.If you want to have your laptop for a number of years, just get one that can actually be opened and have components replaced. A lot of them can - almost everyone I'd say with exceptions such as apple. For example:
I tend to agree with you. My old Lenovo, you know the one I got the same time Dominica won one from SpiceWorld - it was easy to upgrade the SSD or RAM, really the main components one would upgrade.
Yeah, a lot of them are easy because laptops are made out of components anyway.
Here are videos of hundreds of laptops and how to open them and how to do upgrades:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpYZc4lOys6gtJj8-dr4pY1-m0yo_NYqnThe biggest waste is things like the monitor - they can generally last 8-12 years, so short of needing an upgrade there, there is nothing wrong with it, yet we are tossing it aside because we want a new processor.
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@dashrender said in Framework | Modularity hits laptops?:
@pete-s said in Framework | Modularity hits laptops?:
@dashrender said in Framework | Modularity hits laptops?:
@pete-s said in Framework | Modularity hits laptops?:
That company is not going to be around in five years. Good luck finding any upgrades then.
The whole idea is flawed in too many ways to list.If you want to have your laptop for a number of years, just get one that can actually be opened and have components replaced. A lot of them can - almost everyone I'd say with exceptions such as apple. For example:
I tend to agree with you. My old Lenovo, you know the one I got the same time Dominica won one from SpiceWorld - it was easy to upgrade the SSD or RAM, really the main components one would upgrade.
Yeah, a lot of them are easy because laptops are made out of components anyway.
Here are videos of hundreds of laptops and how to open them and how to do upgrades:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpYZc4lOys6gtJj8-dr4pY1-m0yo_NYqnThe biggest waste is things like the monitor - they can generally last 8-12 years, so short of needing an upgrade there, there is nothing wrong with it, yet we are tossing it aside because we want a new processor.
That's only true when you end up between technology shifts.
For instance first laptop I used had a CRT. Then it was monochrome plasma, monochrome lcd, color lcd/tft, led. Then high dpi, capacitive touchscreen, oled, high brightness etc. Each technology is better and more energy efficient than the last one.
If you go back 12 years the laptop you had then has display you wouldn't want to use today. It wouldn't be bright enough, it would be too low resolution, you would only be able to see it straight on and it would draw too much power and kill your battery life. It would also be thick and heavy.
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@dashrender said in Framework | Modularity hits laptops?:
@pete-s said in Framework | Modularity hits laptops?:
@dashrender said in Framework | Modularity hits laptops?:
@pete-s said in Framework | Modularity hits laptops?:
That company is not going to be around in five years. Good luck finding any upgrades then.
The whole idea is flawed in too many ways to list.If you want to have your laptop for a number of years, just get one that can actually be opened and have components replaced. A lot of them can - almost everyone I'd say with exceptions such as apple. For example:
I tend to agree with you. My old Lenovo, you know the one I got the same time Dominica won one from SpiceWorld - it was easy to upgrade the SSD or RAM, really the main components one would upgrade.
Yeah, a lot of them are easy because laptops are made out of components anyway.
Here are videos of hundreds of laptops and how to open them and how to do upgrades:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpYZc4lOys6gtJj8-dr4pY1-m0yo_NYqnThe biggest waste is things like the monitor - they can generally last 8-12 years, so short of needing an upgrade there, there is nothing wrong with it, yet we are tossing it aside because we want a new processor.
Hmm... Can you still get newer or upgraded VGA monitors?
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@obsolesce said in Framework | Modularity hits laptops?:
@dashrender said in Framework | Modularity hits laptops?:
@pete-s said in Framework | Modularity hits laptops?:
@dashrender said in Framework | Modularity hits laptops?:
@pete-s said in Framework | Modularity hits laptops?:
That company is not going to be around in five years. Good luck finding any upgrades then.
The whole idea is flawed in too many ways to list.If you want to have your laptop for a number of years, just get one that can actually be opened and have components replaced. A lot of them can - almost everyone I'd say with exceptions such as apple. For example:
I tend to agree with you. My old Lenovo, you know the one I got the same time Dominica won one from SpiceWorld - it was easy to upgrade the SSD or RAM, really the main components one would upgrade.
Yeah, a lot of them are easy because laptops are made out of components anyway.
Here are videos of hundreds of laptops and how to open them and how to do upgrades:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpYZc4lOys6gtJj8-dr4pY1-m0yo_NYqnThe biggest waste is things like the monitor - they can generally last 8-12 years, so short of needing an upgrade there, there is nothing wrong with it, yet we are tossing it aside because we want a new processor.
Hmm... Can you still get newer or upgraded VGA monitors?
The just ordered and received Viewsonic monitors have VGA ports on them....
