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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in The Failure of Windows as a Service:

      https://www.computerworld.com/article/3624741/say-goodbye-to-all-that-microsoft-ends-windows-as-a-service.html

      Not surprised. I read the bulk of this article and what it means is that Microsoft simply doesn't have this as planned out as they would like, or that they don't have the required skills to keep up with this schedule.

      In either case I see it more as a delay rather than a cancellation...

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @DustinB3403
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        As long as they continue with yearly system level updates, I'll be happy.. and keep giving us free upgrades for modern hardware (though I suppose this isn't really a requirement).

        Like most places we've never purchased upgrades for the masses here. Started with XP, didn't go to Win7 until the user got a new machine - same for Windows 8.

        Of course Windows 10 changed all that. My old as dirt Windows 7 machines were all upgraded to Win10 more than a month before the 1 year "deadline."

        My fleet is old enough that half or more won't run the 'specs' for Windows 11... so we won't upgrade or worry about it, until they get a new machine, which should easily happen before the 2025 runout on updates.

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        • CloudKnightC
          CloudKnight
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          Like I've said in the past, this is where it is going towards, first business then will be consumer:

          https://global.techradar.com/en-ae/news/microsoft-launches-windows-365-a-new-way-to-experience-windows-10-and-windows-11

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @CloudKnight
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            @stuartjordan said in The Failure of Windows as a Service:

            Like I've said in the past, this is where it is going towards, first business then will be consumer:

            https://global.techradar.com/en-ae/news/microsoft-launches-windows-365-a-new-way-to-experience-windows-10-and-windows-11

            Yeah this is Desktop as a Service with a facelift. I literally see no one moving to this. Even the most entrenched businesses will fight this migration.

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            • CloudKnightC
              CloudKnight
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              What concerns me with this that they have the money to push all MSP's out of their own hosted desktop solutions, undercut them and push everyone to their own hosted windows, especially if you don't have to touch azure at all..

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce @DustinB3403
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                @dustinb3403 said in The Failure of Windows as a Service:

                @stuartjordan said in The Failure of Windows as a Service:

                Like I've said in the past, this is where it is going towards, first business then will be consumer:

                https://global.techradar.com/en-ae/news/microsoft-launches-windows-365-a-new-way-to-experience-windows-10-and-windows-11

                Yeah this is Desktop as a Service with a facelift. I literally see no one moving to this. Even the most entrenched businesses will fight this migration.

                This isn't something you "move to". It's meant to compliment or fill a niche need of a functional environment.

                Of course they are going to market it with billboards and fireworks, you have to look past that.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                  @dustinb3403 said in The Failure of Windows as a Service:

                  @stuartjordan said in The Failure of Windows as a Service:

                  Like I've said in the past, this is where it is going towards, first business then will be consumer:

                  https://global.techradar.com/en-ae/news/microsoft-launches-windows-365-a-new-way-to-experience-windows-10-and-windows-11

                  Yeah this is Desktop as a Service with a facelift. I literally see no one moving to this. Even the most entrenched businesses will fight this migration.

                  Let's assume you need the functions of a citrix farm, you can setup your own citrix farm or you buy this... This could be the way to go..

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                  • E
                    ElecEng
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                    Their focus is on Windows as a cloud service.
                    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-365?=&ef_id=Cj0KCQjw_8mHBhClARIsABfFgpgLwrRlPgr6xU-ODSLLMMGd9IOKKl3WxH6MNkNnTzLfNlpUUONaC_8aAii9EALw_wcB:G:s&OCID=AID2200899_SEM_Cj0KCQjw_8mHBhClARIsABfFgpgLwrRlPgr6xU-ODSLLMMGd9IOKKl3WxH6MNkNnTzLfNlpUUONaC_8aAii9EALw_wcB:G:s&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_8mHBhClARIsABfFgpgLwrRlPgr6xU-ODSLLMMGd9IOKKl3WxH6MNkNnTzLfNlpUUONaC_8aAii9EALw_wcB&rtc=1

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                    • CloudKnightC
                      CloudKnight @ElecEng
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                      @eleceng said in The Failure of Windows as a Service:

                      Their focus is on Windows as a cloud service.
                      https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-365?=&ef_id=Cj0KCQjw_8mHBhClARIsABfFgpgLwrRlPgr6xU-ODSLLMMGd9IOKKl3WxH6MNkNnTzLfNlpUUONaC_8aAii9EALw_wcB:G:s&OCID=AID2200899_SEM_Cj0KCQjw_8mHBhClARIsABfFgpgLwrRlPgr6xU-ODSLLMMGd9IOKKl3WxH6MNkNnTzLfNlpUUONaC_8aAii9EALw_wcB:G:s&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_8mHBhClARIsABfFgpgLwrRlPgr6xU-ODSLLMMGd9IOKKl3WxH6MNkNnTzLfNlpUUONaC_8aAii9EALw_wcB&rtc=1

                      Yep + Azure, 365 suite and Xbox. Won't be many years once connectivity is everywhere that I can imagine a cut down version of windows for just connecting to azure/windows 365

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                      • CloudKnightC
                        CloudKnight
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                        A Windows thin client edition...

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @CloudKnight
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                          @stuartjordan said in The Failure of Windows as a Service:

                          Like I've said in the past, this is where it is going towards, first business then will be consumer:

                          https://global.techradar.com/en-ae/news/microsoft-launches-windows-365-a-new-way-to-experience-windows-10-and-windows-11

                          Yeah, except their main markets are like the US and Canada where Internet reliability is really low. It's like no one there has ever been on the Internet. Oh wait...

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                            1337 @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in The Failure of Windows as a Service:

                            @stuartjordan said in The Failure of Windows as a Service:

                            Like I've said in the past, this is where it is going towards, first business then will be consumer:

                            https://global.techradar.com/en-ae/news/microsoft-launches-windows-365-a-new-way-to-experience-windows-10-and-windows-11

                            Yeah, except their main markets are like the US and Canada where Internet reliability is really low. It's like no one there has ever been on the Internet. Oh wait...

                            Microsoft is just waiting for Apple / SpaceX / Amazon got their low orbit satellites up and running for global internet coverage.

                            SpaceX are planning for several tens of thousands of satellites.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in The Failure of Windows as a Service:

                              @stuartjordan said in The Failure of Windows as a Service:

                              Like I've said in the past, this is where it is going towards, first business then will be consumer:

                              https://global.techradar.com/en-ae/news/microsoft-launches-windows-365-a-new-way-to-experience-windows-10-and-windows-11

                              Yeah, except their main markets are like the US and Canada where Internet reliability is really low. It's like no one there has ever been on the Internet. Oh wait...

                              I'm sure this has been stated before, but don't conflate you're poor experiences with Internet Connectivity with everywhere across the US.

                              Granted many places have very crappy options but they still get places "online".

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                @dustinb3403 said in The Failure of Windows as a Service:

                                @scottalanmiller said in The Failure of Windows as a Service:

                                @stuartjordan said in The Failure of Windows as a Service:

                                Like I've said in the past, this is where it is going towards, first business then will be consumer:

                                https://global.techradar.com/en-ae/news/microsoft-launches-windows-365-a-new-way-to-experience-windows-10-and-windows-11

                                Yeah, except their main markets are like the US and Canada where Internet reliability is really low. It's like no one there has ever been on the Internet. Oh wait...

                                I'm sure this has been stated before, but don't conflate you're poor experiences with Internet Connectivity with everywhere across the US.

                                Granted many places have very crappy options but they still get places "online".

                                Don't conflate your good experience in one location with my sampling of thousands of sites across the US that we support and monitor all the time. The US has, and is well documented to be, some of the worst Internet in the developed world and certainly not on par with some of the undeveloped world.

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