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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      I don't know anyone that does Sonos design, but I think most cities have AV dealers that do that stuff a lot. Sonos doesn't go after the HiFi market, but more of the "room filling" market. Like a high quality Bose competitor. Same market, but actually decent stuff.

      If you are an audiophile, neither is going to make you happy. But if you are looking for room jamming sound to dance to or have on while cooking and you want all the latest features, I think Sonos really aims for that.

      I was thinking about Sonos for the hotel because you can control the zones so much.

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      • FATeknollogeeF
        FATeknollogee @1337
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        @pete-s said in Sonos:

        @fateknollogee said in Sonos:

        @dashrender said in Sonos:

        @jasgot said in Sonos:

        Starts with not buying Sonos

        This statement makes absolutely no sense!

        It does to me.

        Obvisously @Dashrender thinks that Sonos has low sound quality and doesn't bring "nice sound and happiness to each room".

        Considering where it sold and who it's marketed to, @Dashrender likely have a point there.

        Do you folks simply not read what @JasGot said?
        Where did he say anything about sound quality?
        "I'd like to change my entire home to SONOS..." is that so hard to digest?

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          1337 @FATeknollogee
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          @fateknollogee said in Sonos:

          @pete-s said in Sonos:

          @fateknollogee said in Sonos:

          @dashrender said in Sonos:

          @jasgot said in Sonos:

          Starts with not buying Sonos

          This statement makes absolutely no sense!

          It does to me.

          Obvisously @Dashrender thinks that Sonos has low sound quality and doesn't bring "nice sound and happiness to each room".

          Considering where it sold and who it's marketed to, @Dashrender likely have a point there.

          Do you folks simply not read what @JasGot said?
          Where did he say anything about sound quality?
          "I'd like to change my entire home to SONOS..." is that so hard to digest?

          Didn't you read @jasgot said "bring nice sound and happiness to each room"?

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          • FATeknollogeeF
            FATeknollogee @1337
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            @pete-s said in Sonos:

            @fateknollogee said in Sonos:

            @pete-s said in Sonos:

            @fateknollogee said in Sonos:

            @dashrender said in Sonos:

            @jasgot said in Sonos:

            Starts with not buying Sonos

            This statement makes absolutely no sense!

            It does to me.

            Obvisously @Dashrender thinks that Sonos has low sound quality and doesn't bring "nice sound and happiness to each room".

            Considering where it sold and who it's marketed to, @Dashrender likely have a point there.

            Do you folks simply not read what @JasGot said?
            Where did he say anything about sound quality?
            "I'd like to change my entire home to SONOS..." is that so hard to digest?

            Didn't you read @jasgot said "bring nice sound and happiness to each room"?

            I guess you forgot to read the part before that, so let me help you, "We don't have elaborate needs"
            Don't conflate nice sound = audiophile.

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              1337 @FATeknollogee
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              @fateknollogee said in Sonos:

              @pete-s said in Sonos:

              @fateknollogee said in Sonos:

              @pete-s said in Sonos:

              @fateknollogee said in Sonos:

              @dashrender said in Sonos:

              @jasgot said in Sonos:

              Starts with not buying Sonos

              This statement makes absolutely no sense!

              It does to me.

              Obvisously @Dashrender thinks that Sonos has low sound quality and doesn't bring "nice sound and happiness to each room".

              Considering where it sold and who it's marketed to, @Dashrender likely have a point there.

              Do you folks simply not read what @JasGot said?
              Where did he say anything about sound quality?
              "I'd like to change my entire home to SONOS..." is that so hard to digest?

              Didn't you read @jasgot said "bring nice sound and happiness to each room"?

              I guess you forgot to read the part before that, so let me help you, "We don't have elaborate needs"
              Don't conflate nice sound = audiophile.

              Yes, I read that part. "Elaborate needs" to me is features. Not sound quality. But you could be right.

              In any case it would be best to go somewhere that has a demo room and sells Sonos. Then you could listen and get advice on what you need. And help with the installation as well - if you want that.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                I think that the thing with Sonos is that they have a lot of models with different power outputs and patterns. And it does some complex networking. So you really want someone who has worked with them.

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                  1337 @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Sonos:

                  I was thinking about Sonos for the hotel because you can control the zones so much.

                  You might want to look into pro audio gear for that type of usage.
                  That's what hotels, even small ones, usually do.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @1337
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                    @pete-s said in Sonos:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Sonos:

                    I was thinking about Sonos for the hotel because you can control the zones so much.

                    You might want to look into pro audio gear for that type of usage.
                    That's what hotels, even small ones, usually do.

                    Yeah, likely that is what makes sense because we are trying to figure out live bands, too. Caracolito is across the street from us and small and does live bands and gets a nice crowd.

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                      1337 @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Sonos:

                      @pete-s said in Sonos:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Sonos:

                      I was thinking about Sonos for the hotel because you can control the zones so much.

                      You might want to look into pro audio gear for that type of usage.
                      That's what hotels, even small ones, usually do.

                      Yeah, likely that is what makes sense because we are trying to figure out live bands, too. Caracolito is across the street from us and small and does live bands and gets a nice crowd.

                      In many cases live bands bring their own sound and lights. But regardless, for any kind of commercial use you want gear that just works, not the consumer stuff. So yeah, find someone local that can help you with what you need.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @1337
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                        @pete-s said in Sonos:

                        So yeah, find someone local that can help you with what you need.

                        LOL, everything comes from three hours away 😞

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                          JasGot @FATeknollogee
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                          @fateknollogee said in Sonos:

                          @jasgot said in Sonos:

                          I'd like to change my entire home to SONOS. Is there a configurator or straight forward designer anywhere?

                          We don't have elaborate needs, just need to know the basic pieces to bring nice sound and happiness to each room.

                          Thanks.

                          Basic questions to ask yourself:
                          How big is the house?
                          How many rooms?
                          How is the networking (wired/wireless) throughout the house?

                          4k sqft
                          12 rooms
                          2k sqft open patio and deck
                          Ethernet to all locations and wifi throughout.

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                            JasGot @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Sonos:

                            I don't know anyone that does Sonos design, but I think most cities have AV dealers that do that stuff a lot. Sonos doesn't go after the HiFi market, but more of the "room filling" market. Like a high quality Bose competitor. Same market, but actually decent stuff.

                            If you are an audiophile, neither is going to make you happy. But if you are looking for room jamming sound to dance to or have on while cooking and you want all the latest features, I think Sonos really aims for that.

                            I was thinking about Sonos for the hotel because you can control the zones so much.

                            I am an audiophile. I have a THX certified theater that is not included in the size or room count. When I need over the top, that's where I go. 🙂

                            The purpose of this project is to have room filling sound at low volume for background music, as well as pumped up volume for party atmosphere.

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                              JasGot @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Sonos:

                              I think that the thing with Sonos is that they have a lot of models with different power outputs and patterns.

                              This is what makes the project so difficult. So many similar products with similar purpose.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @JasGot
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                                @jasgot said in Sonos:

                                I am an audiophile. I have a THX certified theater that is not included in the size or room count. When I need over the top, that's where I go. 🙂

                                Same here, Totems and monoblocks for the real listening.

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                                • FATeknollogeeF
                                  FATeknollogee @JasGot
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                                  @jasgot said in Sonos:

                                  4k sqft
                                  12 rooms
                                  2k sqft open patio and deck
                                  Ethernet to all locations and wifi throughout.

                                  Good, network will not be an issue.

                                  Is the distributed audio system for the 12 rooms, open patio & deck?
                                  You didn't mention whether those 12 rooms already had speakers?

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                                    1337 @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Sonos:

                                    @pete-s said in Sonos:

                                    So yeah, find someone local that can help you with what you need.

                                    LOL, everything comes from three hours away 😞

                                    I wasn't thinking about where to buy, but rather what to buy and maybe help installing it.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @1337
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                                      @pete-s said in Sonos:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Sonos:

                                      @pete-s said in Sonos:

                                      So yeah, find someone local that can help you with what you need.

                                      LOL, everything comes from three hours away 😞

                                      I wasn't thinking about where to buy, but rather what to buy and maybe help installing it.

                                      Me too. All the people who help and know that stuff are hours away. Not a lot of local skills.

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                                        1337 @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Sonos:

                                        @pete-s said in Sonos:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Sonos:

                                        @pete-s said in Sonos:

                                        So yeah, find someone local that can help you with what you need.

                                        LOL, everything comes from three hours away 😞

                                        I wasn't thinking about where to buy, but rather what to buy and maybe help installing it.

                                        Me too. All the people who help and know that stuff are hours away. Not a lot of local skills.

                                        I'm sure you can figure it out by yourself then.

                                        It's basically the same building blocks as hifi gear. Just without the snake-oil and more standardized.

                                        Line levels are higher (roughly 4x) and you often have balanced input/outputs which means less interference and ability to run audio signals over longer distances.

                                        A multizone system would also use a line mixer with several zone outputs. Aka zone mixer / distribution mixer / matrix mixer. That would be the heart of the system.

                                        You would connect your audio sources to the line mixer, for instance a computer or mediaplayer of some kind. If you wanted to stream from a phone or something wireless to several zones, you'd could hook up a bluetooth receiver to the line mixer. Or whatever tech you want as long as it has audio out.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @1337
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                                          @pete-s yeah, sadly we need to get every component of the system. Just a cheap house stereo from the 90s hooked up right now.

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                                            JasGot
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                                            Well. It turned into a big project.

                                            Ended up replacing old Unifi APs, adding additional APs, adding 4 Sonos Fives, 2 Sonos Ones, 2 Sonos One SLs, 4 Sonos Moves, and 2 Sonos ARCs.

                                            Then, because of the new APs, spent at least 4 hours battling a WiFi connected Tuxedo Touch, ended up pulling Ethernet to it.

                                            Integrated Alexa to the Sonos System just so I could ask the speakers to turn the outdoor Edison Lights on and off! 🙂

                                            And then added my Plex server, SiriusXM, and Spotify to Sonos.

                                            We be Jammin' now!

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