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      Harry Lui
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      Do you have any recommendation for tape storage device?

      Thanks.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch
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        What is the desire for 3 years of online viewing?

        Cold storage of some kind would be best for most people.

        Also When moved to cold storage, things could be compressed to H265 or some other highly efficient codec that the NVR is not likely using.

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          Harry Lui @JaredBusch
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          @JaredBusch

          Government directive. Put a non IT person in charge of an IT department and this is what happens.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Harry Lui
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            @Harry-Lui said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

            Do you have any recommendation for tape storage device?

            Thanks.

            Something like this, probably. My guess is LTO7 will be the right fit for you. But LTO6 might be, too.

            https://www.newegg.com/p/238-000M-00013

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              travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

              @Harry-Lui said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

              Do you have any recommendation for tape storage device?

              Thanks.

              Something like this, probably. My guess is LTO7 will be the right fit for you. But LTO6 might be, too.

              https://www.newegg.com/p/238-000M-00013

              If they insist on everything being online without the need to swap tapes (they're already being silly, could see them wanting such) https://www.backupworks.com/NEOs-T48-LTO-8-Library-OV-NEOsT488SA.aspx

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                @travisdh1 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                @scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                @Harry-Lui said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                Do you have any recommendation for tape storage device?

                Thanks.

                Something like this, probably. My guess is LTO7 will be the right fit for you. But LTO6 might be, too.

                https://www.newegg.com/p/238-000M-00013

                If they insist on everything being online without the need to swap tapes (they're already being silly, could see them wanting such) https://www.backupworks.com/NEOs-T48-LTO-8-Library-OV-NEOsT488SA.aspx

                There ARE robots for that. That's what big companies typically do.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                  @travisdh1 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                  @scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                  @Harry-Lui said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                  Do you have any recommendation for tape storage device?

                  Thanks.

                  Something like this, probably. My guess is LTO7 will be the right fit for you. But LTO6 might be, too.

                  https://www.newegg.com/p/238-000M-00013

                  If they insist on everything being online without the need to swap tapes (they're already being silly, could see them wanting such) https://www.backupworks.com/NEOs-T48-LTO-8-Library-OV-NEOsT488SA.aspx

                  There ARE robots for that. That's what big companies typically do.

                  That is what he linked, a self contained loader. At least that is what it looks like.

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                    @travisdh1 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                    @Harry-Lui said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                    Do you have any recommendation for tape storage device?

                    Thanks.

                    Something like this, probably. My guess is LTO7 will be the right fit for you. But LTO6 might be, too.

                    https://www.newegg.com/p/238-000M-00013

                    If they insist on everything being online without the need to swap tapes (they're already being silly, could see them wanting such) https://www.backupworks.com/NEOs-T48-LTO-8-Library-OV-NEOsT488SA.aspx

                    There ARE robots for that. That's what big companies typically do.

                    That is what he linked, a self contained loader. At least that is what it looks like.

                    What he linked was just a single drive, at least what I saw at Newegg.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @travisdh1
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                      @travisdh1 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                      @JaredBusch said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                      @travisdh1 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                      @Harry-Lui said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                      Do you have any recommendation for tape storage device?

                      Thanks.

                      Something like this, probably. My guess is LTO7 will be the right fit for you. But LTO6 might be, too.

                      https://www.newegg.com/p/238-000M-00013

                      If they insist on everything being online without the need to swap tapes (they're already being silly, could see them wanting such) https://www.backupworks.com/NEOs-T48-LTO-8-Library-OV-NEOsT488SA.aspx

                      There ARE robots for that. That's what big companies typically do.

                      That is what he linked, a self contained loader. At least that is what it looks like.

                      What he linked was just a single drive, at least what I saw at Newegg.

                      He quoted you. You linked a library.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                        @JaredBusch said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                        @travisdh1 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                        @Harry-Lui said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                        Do you have any recommendation for tape storage device?

                        Thanks.

                        Something like this, probably. My guess is LTO7 will be the right fit for you. But LTO6 might be, too.

                        https://www.newegg.com/p/238-000M-00013

                        If they insist on everything being online without the need to swap tapes (they're already being silly, could see them wanting such) https://www.backupworks.com/NEOs-T48-LTO-8-Library-OV-NEOsT488SA.aspx

                        There ARE robots for that. That's what big companies typically do.

                        That is what he linked, a self contained loader. At least that is what it looks like.

                        I started with a cheap single drive. There was no requirement stated to have it online and rarely is there. A human to load the odd tape now and again is typically not an issue.

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                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                            @JaredBusch said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                            @scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                            @travisdh1 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                            @scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                            @Harry-Lui said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                            Do you have any recommendation for tape storage device?

                            Thanks.

                            Something like this, probably. My guess is LTO7 will be the right fit for you. But LTO6 might be, too.

                            https://www.newegg.com/p/238-000M-00013

                            If they insist on everything being online without the need to swap tapes (they're already being silly, could see them wanting such) https://www.backupworks.com/NEOs-T48-LTO-8-Library-OV-NEOsT488SA.aspx

                            There ARE robots for that. That's what big companies typically do.

                            That is what he linked, a self contained loader. At least that is what it looks like.

                            I started with a cheap single drive. There was no requirement stated to have it online and rarely is there. A human to load the odd tape now and again is typically not an issue.

                            Frankly, asking for that much storage and showing it as live NAS storage - I merely assumed he needed it online and live, otherwise why even look at that?

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                            • hobbit666H
                              hobbit666
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                              I'm pretty sure "online" was mentioned in the original question.
                              @JaredBusch ask "why the need for 3yr online"

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @hobbit666
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                                @hobbit666 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                                I'm pretty sure "online" was mentioned in the original question.
                                @JaredBusch ask "why the need for 3yr online"

                                Jared asked what, not why and missed a comma.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @hobbit666
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                                  @hobbit666 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                                  I'm pretty sure "online" was mentioned in the original question.
                                  @JaredBusch ask "why the need for 3yr online"

                                  It was not. I wondered why Jared mentioned that.

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                                    biggen
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                                    Who is going to be tasked with changing the tapes if using a single drive? Is that something they are going to keep up with in house??

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                                      @hobbit666 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                                      I'm pretty sure "online" was mentioned in the original question.
                                      @JaredBusch ask "why the need for 3yr online"

                                      It was not. I wondered why Jared mentioned that.

                                      I didn't say it - but I assume live data because the OP specifically posted about a live data solution. Though I think you mentioning tape was likely the best option.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                                        @hobbit666 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                                        I'm pretty sure "online" was mentioned in the original question.
                                        @JaredBusch ask "why the need for 3yr online"

                                        It was not. I wondered why Jared mentioned that.

                                        I didn't say it - but I assume live data because the OP specifically posted about a live data solution. Though I think you mentioning tape was likely the best option.

                                        I think, but I'm just guessing, that that was just a solution that he looked at. Most people don't even consider archival systems for something like this.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @biggen
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                                          @biggen said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:

                                          Who is going to be tasked with changing the tapes if using a single drive? Is that something they are going to keep up with in house??

                                          Would be weird to farm that out. It's normally like a once a week task if you don't want a robot. It only takes a second. Not a hard thing to do at all, changing a tape once a week. if the company can't organize that simple task, they aren't going to be around for three years to worry about it.

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                                            biggen @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller Yeah I just wonder if this is only surveillance related, do they even have an IT dept that can do it?

                                            That autoloader that was linked above is only double the price of a single deck. Unreal how much decks cost.

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